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    10 Reasons to Skip the Expensive Colleges

    If you're the parent of a high-achieving high school student prepared to spend whatever it takes to send your kid to an Ivy League college, authors Claudia Dreifus and Andrew Hacker have some unlikely advice: Don't do it.

    Dreifus, a New York Times writer and an adjunct professor at Columbia University School of International and Public Affairs, and Hacker, a veteran political science professor at Queens College in New York, spent three years interviewing faculty, students, and administrators and crunching statistics for their book, Higher Education? How Colleges Are Wasting Our Money and Failing Our Kids - And What We Can Do About It. Their finding? That many of America's colleges and universities - especially the elite - aren't worth their tuition and serve faculty over their undergrads.

    More outrageous, they say, is that tuition nationwide has jumped at more than twice the rate of inflation since 1982, so many kids graduate deeply in debt. "Tuition is probably the second-largest item you'll buy in your lifetime, after your home," Dreifus says. Given that, the authors suggest you consider the following as you bear down on the decision of where your child will spend the next four (or more) years.

    1. Beginning adulthood without debt is worth far more than a designer diploma.

    The authors' No. 1 rule for parents: Don't let your child go into debt for college. In 2010, almost two thirds of undergraduates borrowed money, and student-loan debt outpaced credit card debt for the first time. The College Board likes to say that a typical senior graduates with "only" $24,000 in debt, but with interest, collection charges, and penalties for postponed payments, the amounts owed can exceed $100,000. If you ever default on a federal student loan (and the rate of defaults is rising), you'll be hounded for life. Lenders can garnish your wages, intercept your tax refunds, and have your professional license revoked. You can't work for the government or collect your social security. "People have been sold this propaganda: 'The rates are so low; just get a loan,' " Dreifus says. "The long-term effect is to cripple your children."

    2. Research universities are no place for undergraduates.

    Professors at big research universities are often more interested in doing research and working with graduate students than teaching your child because their prestige (and their university's) depends on publishing. So they tend to host huge lectures and then foist undergrads off on teaching assistants who may or may not be supervised. "At Harvard, we ran into students who said they never had a professor who had enough of a relationship with them to write a recommendation for grad school," Dreifus says. How to avoid that? Go to a school that's completely dedicated to teaching, like a four-year liberal arts college with little to no research. "Look for seminars where 15 to 20 people sit around a table," Dreifus says. "The big question we want parents to ask: Is this a place that's about developing my child's mind?"

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    3. Colleges are overrun by administrators.

    Student-to-faculty ratios are important, of course. But it might also be wise to ask about the proportion of administrators to students. Between 1976 and 2007, that ratio has doubled at colleges nationwide, the authors say, with bureaucrats serving in such roles as "babysitting coordinator," "dietetic internship director," and "residential communications coordinator." Such services may be useful, but are they really necessary? "You should ask yourself, Is this really a college, or is this a giant multiversity with a lot of extraneous functions? Because that's going to end up costing you," Hacker says. "It's a big reason tuition can now run a quarter-million dollars for four years."

    4. The star professors touted in college brochures probably won't be teaching your kid.

    Universities and colleges are increasingly relying on underpaid, part-time instructors to lead undergraduate courses. Contingent teachers, including paid-by-the-course adjunct professors, now do 70 percent of college teaching, up from 43 percent in 1975. (The elites aren't immune: At Yale, the figure is 70 percent.) Most adjuncts don't even have an office on campus, and because they make on average only about $3,000 a course, they often teach at three or four different colleges. "It's hard to be a great teacher and to be there for your students when you're juggling that many jobs," Dreifus says.

    5. The college's best professors may not even be on campus.

    Though they get their summers off and breaks during the school year, tenured faculty at many universities are encouraged to take frequent sabbaticals. What will that mean for your undergrad? At Harvard, where senior professors get a sabbatical every three years, 10 of the 48 professors in the history department - more than one in five - were off doing research in 2010/2011. During a recent year at Williams College, another school with a great reputation, a third of the professors in the religion department were on leave. If you choose a school that gives its faculty a lot of time for research, your son or daughter might find that his or her senior-thesis adviser is on sabbatical in Tuscany.

    6. Don't be seduced by the luxuries they show you on the tour.

    Today's students get suites, private bathrooms, and food courts with chefs that make sushi and Dijon chicken, not to mention jumbo Jacuzzis and five-story climbing walls. It's all part of an extravagant amenities race that's helping to push up tuition rates. "When we sneaked in on parent/student tours across the country, we were shocked at the number of questions parents asked about amenities," Dreifus says. "A college doesn't have to look like Club Med. In fact, I'd say you should be suspicious if a school has a lot of amenities. When a college has every kind of plaything, that tells you something about its priorities."

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    7. Your tuition may be subsidizing a college president's $1 million-plus salary.

    College presidents create a tone and a direction for an institution, so take a look at the person at the top. Does he look like an educator? Has he switched to a new college every few years? What's his salary? A growing number of higher education leaders are making more than $1 million a year. "When a president is remunerated the same way as a CEO, that's a sign that the school has embraced the corporate model of doing things," says Dreifus. "This should be a public service. A university president should not make more than the president of the United States."

    8. High-powered athletic programs drain money from academics.

    Only a handful of athletic departments actually pay for themselves. The rest rely on your tuition and fees to help pay for coaches, trainers, equipment, and travel and lodging expenses for the players. Birmingham-Southern College in Alabama has more football coaches (seven) than it has professors in its history department (four). "If you didn't have football, you could hire more history professors," Hacker says. The other problem is that once colleges get into big-time sports, corruption tends to follow. Even Princeton recently had an alumnus who paid tuition for a tennis player in violation of NCAA rules, Hacker says. (The student agreed to repay the money to charity.) He acknowledges that some teenagers love the excitement of painting their faces in team colors and cheering for the home team. "How can I argue with that?" he says. "Except to say that you should recognize the trade-off: It's depleting the quality of your education."

    9. Going to an elite university does not guarantee success.

    To prove this point, Hacker and Dreifus tracked the 900-odd students who graduated from Princeton in 1973 to see if the school was delivering on its promise "to prepare students for positions of leadership," whether in business, public service, or the arts, which Princeton administrators claim as their goal. "We were very disappointed," Hacker says. "There were only a handful of recognized names in that class of 900. What that tells us is simply this: In America, if you put your talents to their best use, by the age of 35 or 36, you'll be passing people from Princeton, no matter where you went to school." Sure, the authors acknowledge, a designer degree might help you get into medical school or law school at Harvard, Stanford, or Yale. That's a nice bonus if you can pay the full sticker price, they say, but not enough of an edge to saddle your child with many thousands of dollars in debt.

    10. Honors colleges at public universities can offer as fine an education as the Ivy League.

    The honors colleges at City University of New York, Arizona State, and the University of Mississippi, to name a few, offer the intimacy of a liberal arts college at state-school prices. "These students get first pick of classes and have special classes to themselves, and at Arizona State, they have their own dorms," Dreifus says. "We met students in those honors colleges who got into Harvard and other elite schools, but they said they didn't want to burden their parents with that kind of expense. Now that's a smart kid."

    By Michelle Crouch

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    441 comments

    • Ron Coleman  •  9 months ago
      This article does raise good points that people should be aware of when looking at elite schools. There's no question that the higher education bubble is an important "learning moment" for all of us.

      This piece overgeneralizes, however. Many top schools make it a point that senior faculty should both teach and interact with senior faculty; many of them (notably Princeton) have a no-debt financial aid policy; and issues such as how much the president makes or how many administrators are, really, pretty irrelevant to the choice prospective college students face.
    • ShaneP  •  9 months ago
      Most of these points are quite valid in this article. One big, glaringly inaccurate point, however, is how professors have "their summers off". RIDICULOUS! Most professors, especially at research universities, work MORE over the summer, even if they're not teaching summer school courses. Summer is when most of the "research" part of their job is done, and they are under TREMENDOUS pressure to complete projects before the fall classes begin -- especially if they have good federal and/or private corporate funding. And if it's not research, they're expected to publish a few papers or a book or organize a conference or two.

      Additionally, all of these things apply to profs on sabbatical. Sabbatical does NOT equal "vacation" -- far from it!
    • shamrock  •  9 months ago
      Another item that should have been mentioned is dual credit courses. Most high schools students can qualify for these classes and earn the credits necessary to graduate from high school while getting a head start on their college credits for a small fraction of the cost. In most areas, DCC's are even less expensive than CLEP testing that allows a student to "test out" of required college courses. Many high schools also have programs that allow students from low income families to take the courses at no cost. Even if your child has no immediate plans to attend college, they should still seriously consider DCC's if at all possible. Ten years down the road when they are married with a family, they may change their minds about a college degree and they would still have the credits they earned in high school. With a little careful planning, a student can graduate from high school with almost 2 years of required college courses (even more if the student is dedicated and willing to give up their summer vacations).
    • LeeH  •  9 months ago
      I would also look at Birmingham-Southern's track record at getting their students where they want to be as well. In recent years at least.
    • LeeH  •  9 months ago
      I think that Hacker needs to do a little more research when they throw Birmingham-Southern under the bus. Anyone that knows the college would first of all never classify the program as a "high-powered athletic program" even though they do have a decent one. They are certainly no D1 superpower though. They are a DIII program that relies heavily on donors to run the program and not tuition. In fact, if they were to take away the football program they might actually have to fire faculty rather than be able to higher additional history faculty as Hacker asserts. The loss of the football program (or other sports programs) at such a small institution could mean the loss of 50-100 students to that college. With that kind of a decrease in income from tuition cuts would be made and not hires. The school would lose and not the athletic programs from the money standpoint. It just seems a little unfair that a small school that doesn't seem to fit in all of these other categories is thrown under the bus like that. They have great student-faculty ratios and incredible relationships with mostly all of the faculty. No faculty get to skip out because of research or extra help. Their administrative team also took a hit this past year because of financial issues. They are back on track now and in great shape gearing up for the school year with the hire of a great new President of the college, but even so...just doesn't seem fair to throw them into this argument.
    • Tom  •  9 months ago
      It annoyed me that the article continually refers to college age students as children and kids. They are adults. The a choice of terminology is probably used to convince the parents that the wishes of the pending H.S graduate is frivolous and arbitrary and the parent should choose ultimate college/university based on costs. To that end, the authors were able to paint a convincing argument and is probably necessary whrn the parent is the one choosing the elite (expensive) course for their son or daughter.

      The article should have mentioned how many change in major occur between acceptance and grauation. Often a state school (assuming it is more affordable) can probably be more accomodating. I agree with the comment made by the employee of an expensive school made earlier, in this era there are requirements that demand some form of an office that sees to the disabilities and weel being of students. Some of the titles chosen for this article are frivolous, for a purpose that is obviously premeditated.

      I would bestow an overall grade of "C" for this article. This is based primarily on balance and a reliance on hyperbole to reinforce conclusions.
    • Ron Paul 2012  •  9 months ago
      What is actually going on in the job market and mainly all schools, not just expensive ones, is that they have actually become two very different worlds. They are no longer functional together due to a massive lack of present and historical truth.
    • leftisbetter  •  9 months ago
      While it's true that you're paying for the brand at some private colleges and universities, it's a different story with public schools. Since education is continually an easy budget cut for many state governments, state funding for higher ed has plummeted, making "public" schools increasingly reliant on tuition. This, more than anything else, is why college costs are rising so quickly. If we put the public back in higher ed, we'd easily solve this problem.

      Hard to do when our state and federal legislators are more concerned with protecting their wealthy donors than the lives of their constituents.
    • mytwocents  •  9 months ago
      Bravo for the authors of this article. I'm sick to death of all the boo-hoo stories about persons leaving college with 5 to 6 figure student loan debt and looking for the American taxpayer to bail them out. No way!! My husband and I worked full-time during the day, attended night classes at local schools and graduated debt-free. We also chose business-related degrees that increased our earning power which in turn allowed us to be financially solvent and retire in our early 60s debt-free.
    • sergio q 1  •  9 months ago
      why ,Why ,WHY!!! waste the BiggMoney on a liberally minded , politically correct ,socialistic ,full of bullcrapp~N~lies un-intellegent edumacation ??????
      ....learn to play gitar ,start a band , make bigg bucks & shagg all the tramps you can handel
    • דָּנִיֵּאל  •  9 months ago
      It's not just the colleges that are over run with hinckey administrators. Look at the list of employees for our "esteemed" Federal agencies.
    • Patricia  •  9 months ago
      Finally, finally, someone has dared to question why college tuition is so outrageous. I am a retired Management Analyst and for a long time I have wished I had an opportunity to "see where the money goes". A college should not be a "sacred cow" that no one can question. All of our children should have an opportunity to have an education. I don't mean a handout, I mean something that is attainable if they are willing to put forth an effort. This should not leave them with a huge debt and/or bankrupt their parents. Books alone cost much,much more for students than best selling novels. It doesn't cost any more to print them and it certainly doesn't take that much more talent to write them. Much of it is retread information. Are the teachers worth what they are being paid?? Does it really take that much more talent or knowledge for a college professor to teach a college student out of a book (that they didn't write) than it does for my granddaughter to teach her fifth grade students? No, she doesn't have a doctorate degree, but she does have a masters degree. Trust me, her salary won't break the bank.

      Is there no place that is safe from corruption?? Who will pay the price for this greed and mismanagement? We will. Our country will!! If we don't make the education of our children a top priority, we won't be able to compete with other countries who do.
    • Jutta  •  9 months ago
      My how times have changed. I went to local/state schools because that was all I could afford. Took me 5 years to finally graduate in'77. College back then cost $4/semester hour, and I earned a whopping $1.75/hour. Lived in a dump with garage sale everything for $100/mo.
      If it's your own nickel:
      --go to a junior college for 2 years, it's all basics anyway, why sit in a room with 250 others? Class size matters.
      --pay as you go, take longer if you need to - but there are no student loans to pay off.

      BTW, I was a "high achieving high school student". Partial Scholarships were not enough, back then.
    • BG  •  9 months ago
      There's a lot of misinformation and generalities here. Be careful of people who try to attach the findings from focused studies to every situation (as with the Princeton study).

      I teach at a state university, in the top ranked program (nationally) in my field, so I teach in one of those so-called "elite" research schools. I am one of those faculty these authors write about who must conduct a lot of research and publish a lot of articles. I also teach undergraduate students every year, and write reference letters for nearly every student who asks for one. My school requires nearly every member of our faculty to teach undergraduate students, including the elite faculty. No, the Nobel laureate in our ranks does not teach undergraduates, but she does speak to them regularly and she mentors many grad students personally. Yes, we struggle with balancing undergrad courses between adjunct faculty and tenured faculty but those ratios are something everyone talks about, works on, and has a stake in. And finally, the best thing our school ever did for us is hire lots of professional staff to support students through writing programs, study abroad programs, advising programs. So I would advise my college age children to go TO the schools that invest in administration exactly because these schools allow professors to focus on teaching, not paper pushing.

      So far, I hope I have punched holes in claims # 2,3,4,5,7, and 9. But one claim that I do support is #10. Honors programs are the best investment one can make in a public university, because they attract great students. But college is all about choice. So I have one child who is headed in just one week to his freshman year to an honors program in the public university I teach at -- and he will graduate debt free. And my second child has already set eyes on another elite school because it offers the right degree program for her specific interests. Both choice are valid.
    • Observero0  •  9 months ago
      [Go to a school that’s completely dedicated to teaching, like a four-year liberal arts college with little to no research. ] ===========================================================

      Strongly suggest this recommendation be disregarded. Liberal arts degrees are a dime a dozen & typically do NOT pay well & you'll be saddled with a loan you can't pay for or it will take you a very long time to pay for. Do some research & choose a degree that is marketable & you can stand to work in. Engineering, math, physics, chemistry, medicine (e.g., "hard" sciences) are some suggestions. And use community colleges with subjects that can be transferred to an accredited university.
    • Bob 2011  •  9 months ago
      if you want to be a multi millionaire for life and or never have to worry about finding a job you have to go to a ivy league school

      if not, online school will do,

      :)
    • Bob 2011  •  9 months ago
      BAD ADVICE

      remember you get what you pay for,

      :)
    • Viet Vet  •  9 months ago
      OK, I am old..BUT I remember when you worked and went to college. College prepared you for life. You learned to work, study and generally balance your time. I finished college in 1975 with $$ in savings and a great job. If a kid is lucky he can find a job in his/her area of study and make sure he/she will like this career choice plus get experience. Now kids graduate with huge debt and no practical experience in their field often to find that they are in the wrong field, broke and unhappy! Oh, and ALL THAT DEBT!! And more into "hanging out" than working.... College kids were doing everything from sacking groceries to hospital work.. Now it is illegals doing the "jobs Americans won't do".. Thanks George Bush. And Obummer is making sure challenges like NASA are abandoned so we can feed the people on their porches while they are watching me work.. YUKK
    • O.G. - Oscar the Grouch  •  9 months ago
      have you ever been or know anyone that's been to one of those colleges? probably not.
    • kw  •  9 months ago
      I have three young family members who went to the college of their choice. Two of them HAD to go to a private school because they had the BEST reputation even though there were public schools in the area that had good reputations in their field of study. The third went to a public school in her field of study even though there were "better" private schools. She is the only one who has a decent job, nearly debt free, has a house and a life of her own. the other two are finally moving out of their parents house. One because he's going to law school because he doesn't know what else to do and the other one got forced out because their parents couldn't take supporting her anymore. they took so long to grow up because they thought the jobs they were offered and the housing they could afford after college were beneath them. after all, they went to an elite school. they deserve better than the rest of us, don't they? Lol

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