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Dear BA Foodist, Can you set me straight on tipping?

Dear BA Foodist,

Can you set me straight on tipping? I was once told that 20 percent is for great service, 15 percent for bad. Unless a waiter's gone overboard, I'm an 18 percenter, but I was recently accused of being stingy. Am I wrong, or wasn't 10 percent considered fair not too long ago? Give me a tip I can use. --TIPPER G., Albuquerque

Dear Tipper G.,

Ah, the great tipping conundrum. You are not alone. At a meal's end, I often find myself staring at the blank lines of a credit-card receipt, concerned that the effects of too much wine and food will impair my basic algebra skills. (That's what a spouse is for: making sure it all adds up correctly.) Still, I think I can help.

The Foodist waited tables many years ago at a small, well-regarded spot in Brooklyn. (Incidentally, one evening he waited on a major food critic who later gave the restaurant a one-star review. The critic liked the food but described the service as "friendly but very slow and fumbling." Oh, well: If you can't serve 'em, join 'em.) Waiting tables is a job everyone should be forced to do at least once, if only to learn that it's not okay to snap your fingers when you want something, and also to find out what it's like to eke out a living on tips.

It's disappointing to receive anything less than 20 percent of the total bill. Most waiters at today's better restaurants expect that much for average service, and even more if they do it with a smile. So unless you're planning never to go to the same restaurant twice, the days of 10 percent tips--and even 15 percent tips--are long gone.

Read more from BA's Restaurant Editor, Andrew Knowlton, as he shares tips, trends and his take on eating out.

The BA Foodist's Tipping Rules

RULE NO. 1: Unless the server is rude, condescending, and/or completely absent, tip between 18 and 20 percent.

RULE NO. 2: Never tip on tax. Tip based on the subtotal. And if you're calculating your tip simply by doubling the tax, stop it--you're being cheap.

RULE NO. 3: Unless you drink like Dean Martin or have a taste for expensive wines (i.e., $40 or more, depending on your budget), it's best to include booze when calculating a tip. Bartenders expect a dollar tip per drink (which is usually about 20 percent of the drink's price), and it's no different with waiters.

RULE NO. 4: Never turn a blind eye when others are tipping--especially if they're unfamiliar with our tipping culture (i.e., Europeans). If you think your tablemate is lowballing the service, it's best to hand the waiter a few bills on the way out.

RULE NO. 5: If a few dollars here and there really matter that much to your bank account, perhaps you shouldn't be going out to eat in the first place.

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  • JohnT's Avatar
    Posted by JohnT Sat Dec 6, 2008 11:16am PST

    My wife works as a server in Ruby Tuesday. And to read what I see here, it explains alot now why she works her ass off for her customers and maybe if she's lucky gets an average of 5-10%. People use to tip more, but with the down economy, those customers scaled back the tips but keep eating out. You may think it's funny to degrade or see someone getting degraded to the point of crying, but I don't. I have seen it 1st hand the stuff servers have to put up with in regards to customers. You all say, "well thats tough it comes with the job and if you don't like it quit". I say to you this: I hope you loose your job through a layoff and find the only job that is available to pay your family is a food service job. Maybe that will wake some of you up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And to think good service will render a good tip, thats ridiculous. I have sat and watched as people got all the attention they could ask for, and still didn't give a tip. All the while laughing about it.

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  • Local Yahoo User's Avatar
    Posted by Local Yahoo User Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:53pm PST

    Posted by Kat_14 Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:25am PDT

    Tips are not mandatory. I find it absurd. I tip when and if I want to. And how much I chose to. Not my fault that they didnt stick to school and got underpaid jobs, it's not my job to feed them, it's the other way round!

    This is the most ignorant comment I have ever read. Most servers are in school. We don't have people who pay for us to go to school. I put my self through school by working at a restaurant. It allows me the flexibilty that a 'normal' job does not.

    I am not going to whine about people tipping or not tipping. I am a good server, and I make good money. I am not underpaid. I probably make more than you working way less hours. I know that at the end of it all I will not be a server for the rest of my life, but it has taught me a lot of life skills that people like you will never possess.

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  • __A_YAHOO_USER__'s Avatar
    Posted by __A_YAHOO_USER__ Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:12pm PST

    if you need more money, then grow up and form a UNION -- its not that hard to demand better wages, but first you have to stop begging the customer and instead you need to go after your employer

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  • Jeffries's Avatar
    Posted by Jeffries Sat Jun 6, 2009 4:19pm PDT

    I've been a server in Manhattan. We saw every kind of tip rudeness from customers. Those who tip less than 15% (!!!) or out of towners who saw fit to tip nothing at all. My pet peeve was the stingy folks who should have known better, but thought it was fun not to tip on wine. There is no justification for running up a substantial bill and then trying to nickel and dime your server -- you're just a jerk.

    Thanks for standing up for waiters!

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