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User post: Government Manipulation of People via Soda Tax... that should make you think WTF.

Many of the more health-conscious people on here may already be aware of the new idea US health officials want Congress to support, but if you aren't, here is the article link, http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090730/hl_afp/healthusobesitytaxdrink_20090730232047. 

Long story short: The head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Thomas Frieden, proposed a "one-penny-per-ounce tax," on any and all sodapops. And from the way I see it, that's absurd.

Alright, I understand where he's coming from. He's looking at it as a source of revenue and as a way to make Americans stop drinking sodapop in large quantities. The author of the article suggests that they want to take soda "off Americans' menu of choice," with a similar technique as was used on cigarette sales. Think for a minute... CIGARETTES  vs. SODAPOP. Cigarettes are know to be completely bad for people, they have a slew of chemicals, addictive agents, tar that fills up a person's lungs. There is nothing about them that is good. Yet Frieden uses the statement "We reduced adult smoking by 25 percent and teen smoking by 50 percent in six years. About half of that reduction was the result of taxation," to support his idea for a soda pop tax high enough to reduce consumption. Lets pause for a second.

1. Government imposed taxes to up the cost of soda so as to coerce Americans to consume less. Reasoning: They will be better off without it. If we can lower consupmtion we can lower obesity rates.
Newsflash: There's still fast food and other alternative sources of sugar and calories.
Another Newsflash: There are so many popular drinks that adults gravitate to that are 100X worse than soda. EX: Iced Coffees. Mochas. Lattes. But soda is an easier thing to pick on, particularly because they can bring up the idea of protecting our children. This brings me to...

2. Lets do a little comparison here. In eight ounces of each sample, I will tell you what the labels told me:

Topical Twister - (a kid's juice) 120 calories and 29 g of sugar with 10 or 20% Vitamin C
Traditional Pepsi - 100 calories and 27 g of sugar
Juicy Juice - 110 and 26 sugars with 100% Vitamin C.

There is not a major difference between other drinks and soda. Yes, I know some sodas have higher calories and sugars then Pepsi, but there are also at least 2 or 3 that are lower. Not to mention, there is a thing called diet soda,* with none of the calories or the sugar, so what's to complain about? The main difference is in the Vitamin C. But that is not a point they are arguing this tax idea on. So what are they going to do, tax juices too? Because of the sugar? Almost anything you can eat or drink can make you fat if you eat or drink too much of it.

It is not up to the government to make things like soda hard to obtain because they want to help the American public slim down. The government has to teach its people portion control in a culture that has trained its people to consume, to buy, buy, buy, both products and food. The Coca Cola Corporation was right when they were quoted in the Financial Times as saying that "the consumer in this environment is not ready for a tax on a basic staple like non-alcoholic beverages." If the government wants to start taxing to stop consumption as a means to reduce obesity, then they better start taxing cakes, cookies, crackers, snack foods, frozen pizza's, frozen not-diet foods, icecream, everything they can think of that isn't straight off a plant. Even meats.

Obesity isn't caused by the availibility of soda and snacks, but by people's inability to control portion sizes. Sodas and snacks contribute, they do, I admit that, and small taxes to help with health care costs make sense, but I cannot and will not support something that is designed to manipulate what I consume when I am capable to decide on my own and decide for my children as I get older. The government does not have the right to take that away from me. Very rarely do I want the corporations to win in Congress, but this time I hope they do, because the health officials are pushing to take choices out of our hands. Think. A cent-per-ounce tax. On a 2-L bottle, that's 64 cents. On a six pack, that's 72 cents. On a 3-L, 96 cents. On a 12-pack, that's a $1.44 extra. On a 24 pack, that's $2.88 more. That's a lot more than a lot of family can spend on soda, and its sad, if you think of times like these, even if the tax were to pass after the economy recovered, its still too much for a lot of people and its taking away a sad simple treat.



* and just as a side note, if you care to argue the fact that the chemicals in diet soda are worse than in regular soda, then petition to end the reign of flavored waters and all the "healthy" snack foods as well, all the things that "wouldn't count" because of artificial sweeteners. 
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  • Katie B's Avatar
    Posted by Katie B Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:04am PDT

    I agree with you on most everything except for the taxation on meats... because that would mean taxing even the leanest of meats and those that are good for you and have vital nutrition, such as the Omega-3's in fish and the Iron in beef... Yes, I realize you can get the same minerals and fats from plant based products but what if you have a food allergy to nuts and then you can only get your Omega-3's from fish.

    But I do agree with you, it's absured that they are demonizing soda's when even percieved healthy foods can have just as much if not more sugars (not even fiber but straight sugars) and calories as their junkfood counter parts.... It's yet one more sin tax that will only push people to get the cheaper and lower quality items that just might be worse for them than the original offender... I know I have seen this with my parents and cigarettes, they have been smoking all my life and as the taxes go up the quality of their cigarettes goes down because they are not able to buy the more expensive ones... Now, don't get me wrong, I think all cigarettes are horrid and I don't want them in my house... but the cheaper the cigarettes are the more additives there are to make them cheaper, thus making them worse for you than the more expensive brands. At least this is my opinion on the matter.

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  • raul63's Avatar
    Posted by raul63 Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:14am PDT

    Wait if thats what they want why dont they lobby for soft drink makers reduce the amount of sweetners by 15% instead of taxing us again.In fact all sweets that are artificially sweetened like twinkies ,juices,candy bars ,sodas etc.....you could on and on and on and all it amounts to is more money for the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Artemis's Avatar
    Posted by Artemis Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:31pm PDT

    Ah, do any of these people actually live in the real world and not the little space between their ears? THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING BIG BROTHER IN TERMS OF FOOD! when they stop lining their pockets with the drug companies and everyone else then I'll take their advice, until then i will stick to my own diet that hasn't done much harm to me yet.

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  • charles's Avatar
    Posted by charles Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:21pm PDT

    Damm tired of the Goverment sticking their nose in peoples privates lives.

    What we need are term limits and very very very small Goverment .Also need congress to live like we do,no yearly automatic raises,no special health care program,no more perks ,no free trips on the tax payer. Make them live as we do. And lastly stay the hell out of our lives as they work for us not the other way around.

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  • ♥Harley♥™'s Avatar
    Posted by ♥Harley♥™ Sat Aug 1, 2009 8:53am PDT

    I am so against the government taxing us for ANYTHING in this crappy economy. That being said, healthy sugars, and the sugar in sodas (high fructose corn syrup) are completely different things. Soda has more HFCS than any other products on the market that are consumed on a daily basis. It's one of the worst things you can put into your body. And some people drink them at every meal, supersize them at fast food restaurants, etc. Tha'ts why they are such a huge contributor to obesity. Still, taxing sodas is typical of our liberal government sticking their nose even further up our butts. Parents need to take responsibility of what their children are consuming, and teach them healthy habits!

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  • Gregory W's Avatar
    Posted by Gregory W Sat Aug 1, 2009 11:23am PDT

    That's all it is, and honestly, I'd say the same about smoking.

    If people want to smoke, let them, just make sure it isn't the taxpayers problem when they get sick.

    I mean come on.. if people want to drink soda, let them. Don't try to force people to stop by taxing it. That's bull.

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  • lynseyf's Avatar
    Posted by lynseyf Sun Aug 2, 2009 2:04am PDT

    It's just another way that govt can control us, and steal our money. Yes, STEAL. They use this "obesity issue" as a cover-up excuse and REASON to take our hard earned money away from us.

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  • JoKTM's Avatar
    Posted by JoKTM Sun Aug 2, 2009 9:25pm PDT

    Once you allow special taxation on certain products you open up pandoras box. Congratulations to those of you who wanted special taxes on cigs and alcahol, this belongs to you too.

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  • ILoveFriday's Avatar
    Posted by ILoveFriday Mon Aug 3, 2009 12:12pm PDT

    I agree w/ JoKTM:

    "Once you allow special taxation on certain products you open up pandoras box. Congratulations to those of you who wanted special taxes on cigs and alcahol, this belongs to you too."

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  • Karmen's Avatar
    Posted by Karmen Mon Aug 3, 2009 10:55pm PDT

    This will never happen. Lobbyists from the major soda companies will have a chokehold on Congress. Don't even waste your time getting wound up about it.

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