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Friday, September 5, 2008

What if weight-loss surgery is a medical con job?

When Anne told me that she was having the duodenal switch, I didn't have an opinion on the subject, other than to know that it wasn't for me.

To be frank, I was kind of horrified that my amazing and beautiful friend would put herself through it and I believe I used the phrase, "Cutting out her guts and hauling them away in a bucket," but I supported her decision once it was made and have loved being a part of her weight-loss surgery journey, to use a sappy WLS blog term.

However, because I was concerned for her health and because I wanted to understand what my friend would be going through, I did extensive research on the subject and the surgery in general. Culturally, I was amazed by the obvious double standard: if someone were to exist on 500 calories per day for an extended period of time without having had a surgery, they would be considered an anorexic and doctors would tell them to seek treatment...but if they had weight-loss surgery, then suddenly they are making a "decision to improve their health."

The lack of solid statistical analysis on the long-term effects and the efficacy of the surgeries was kind of shocking, but what was more shocking was the willful blinders worn by post-op patients on forums--they would talk about the debilitating side effects, they would post memorials to people who died during or of complications from the surgery at ratios that were much MUCH higher than described on the surgeons' websites. (Folks, I work with statistics for a living and there are SO many ways that you can justify manipulating data to look like it's reasonable, you would not believe it. One word: outlier.) And then they would insist that they were reborn the moment they woke up from the anesthesia and started dropping poundage. In some ways, it reminded me of the Christian concept of the mortification of the flesh, a physical apology and paying back for the hedonism of weight gain.

Self's August issue contains a very though-provoking article titled, "The Weight Loss Miracle That Isn't." The whole thing is gold, but here's a bit that gave me pause:

"But a new theory might provide some answers about post-op weight gain, and prove that willpower has little to do with it. Researchers are now theorizing that the reason patients lose a certain amount of weight in the first place is because gastric bypass, in part by toying with hormones, somehow lowers the body's natural set point, the weight your system is most comfortable maintaining. A patient's hunger returns, because the body has achieved that lower set point. 'The surgery changes our physiology, the way the body responds to food. It makes heavy people more like people who are naturally thin,' enthuses Dr. Kaplan, who is conducting cutting-edge research on the topic. 'Understanding this as a set-point issue allows us to stop blaming the patient who doesn't do as well, because they were just built that way. What they lose is what they lose, and they can't expect to lose any more.'"
Quite honestly, the article is so full of excellent points and more issues than can be covered in a single blog post, but the snippet above really stuck out at me. If willpower has little to do with post-operative weight gain, then it would follow that willpower has little to do with a body's ability to lose weight or maintain weight loss through diet alone too. Suddenly, fat doesn't have quite the moral judgment that it did when you read about the fat people ruining the environment through their uncontrollable love of Ding Dongs.

And what kind of raw deal is it if these people go through all of that soul-searching and physical pain, all in the name of health, when really, you have the potential of not even losing all of the excess weight that is supposedly so much more unhealthy than cutting up one's internal organs. And I keep thinking of one poster who said that she had weight loss surgery because she needed to lose significant weight and after a ton of side effects, she's now living on 700 calories a day and is only ten pounds smaller than she was pre-op. I have to give that commenter a heck of a lot of credit, because I would be in jail right now from going postal, but the creepy thing is that everyone on the WLS forums told her that she wasn't using her "tool" correctly and that it was weight-loss surgery and not brain surgery and a bunch of other sanctimonious crap. And it makes me thankful that Anne has a place to talk about what really sucks about her process without anyone giving her pushback or making her feel like she's violating the Masonic Code of Shiny Happy Thin People, but it makes me really said for the rest of the people who played Let's Make A WLS Deal and ended up with the goat behind door number three, because their concerns are getting shushed as a buzzkill.

What do you guys think? Is WLS the answer for the obesity epidemic? Should all the fatties just go in for the slice and dice and then hit the ground running (and shrinking)? Do you get the sense that the picture isn't quite as rosy as the Lap Band and Gastric Bypass advertisements would have you believe?

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  • Boss # 1's Avatar
    Posted by Boss # 1 Fri Aug 1, 2008 12:14pm PDT

    Ohhhh, I'm glad you wrote this. I was just talking to my dad the other day about the same thing. In my (humble) opinion, weight loss surgery is not a good option. It a) is a surgery, that has all the potentially dangerous side effects of a surgery, b) as you pointed out, you may or may not receive the benefits you were hoping for, c) again, as you pointed out, it changes the body's physiology & changes the way the body is SUPPOSED to function, & d) food is a part of life, & the idea that a person has to limit their food intake and the way they eat forever seems like a horrible way to live.

    While I haven't studied weight loss surgery, one of the things that seems like a big drawback is that the patients aren't being taught to live a healthy, balanced life. The simple denial of calories prevents them from achieving this. That's not to say that some people don't use weight loss surgery as the starting point for changing their life, but I think a lot of people see it as an easier solution...and when they don't get the results they want, wouldn't that leave them in a worse place than where they started?

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  • kimberly b's Avatar
    Posted by kimberly b Sun Aug 3, 2008 10:38pm PDT

    I have to say, I am glad someone finally spoke up on this issue. I have never considered surgery even though I am diabetic. As if the entire concept of cutting out a major organ was not bad enough, that it denies a basic drive (hunger) and the pleasure that goes with it, the potential side effects certainly caused me to say heck NO. And here's why... A beloved friend of the family had that surgery and woke up with a stroke. She survived the stroke...for a while. In the time in-between, every morsel she put in her mouth made her want to throw up. She spent her days running to the bathroom and trying to figure out how to do the simplest task with the use of only one arm. She did not lose a great amount of weight like she thought she would. Eventually, she died of complications from the stroke. She was desperate, thought she had tried everything and failed before she considered such a dramatic solution as cutting out most of her stomach. Marie was a sitting duck. I believe she was a victim of genetics, society, and ultimately, the field of medicine. Before the surgery she was not an overeater, an assumption many doctors and people in general make about overweight people. Her food choices rarely involved 'junk food,' the supposed culprit in obesity. Her life was not athletic, but she was constantly on the go and she was a happy soul in general. The only explanation for her extreme weight gain is that something was terribly wrong with her body, NOT HER. She weighed well over 300 pounds and you can not account for that by any means other than genetics. In person she was always upbeat, but secretly she felt terrible about her appearance. She did not feel she was beautiful -a failing of society that I believe influenced her decision to go through with the operation. And who was sitting there waiting for her desperation? Medicine. There were some risks, sure, they told her, but don't worry, the health risks of CUTTING OUT YOUR STOMACH are minor (MINOR!) and are outweighed by the benefits. The truth is that Marie was diabetic. And instead of medicine getting on the ball and finding a cure, a way to get the body to respond properly to that physical condition, they offered something else - a quick 'cure.' It cured her alright. By killing her. In my (humble) opinion, medicine that fights against nature will harm a patient ultimately. It will deprive them of quality of life just to extend that life and sometimes, despite the 'best intentions' of medicine, it will take that life. These types of surgery are being called "instant cures" for diabetes, but look closer. Only a few EXTREMELY overweight people undergo them and the main reason why is that insurance won't pay in most cases. What if that changes? How lucritive will it be for surgeons and physicians to throw up their hands on other treaments and research for a cure and say, gee, taking an organ is less trouble and it makes us look like Gods. Doesn't this hurt ALL diabetics in the long run? Something to ponder.... One other thing. If this type of surgery was aimed at another drive, say sex, do you think patients would be ponying up for it? I find it strange that ruining a hunger drive is consider acceptable when medicine strives to restore the other pleasurable drive.

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  • Sweet T's Avatar
    Posted by Sweet T Mon Aug 4, 2008 11:55am PDT

    My mom had to have 2/3 of her stomach removed due to an ulcer, and she has complications from the surgery to this day (the surgery was 28 yrs. ago). She's still able to eat and live a relatively normal life, but when the complications start, she's out of commission. Losing weight involves lifestyle changes no matter what. I doubt those changes get easier when you're missing an important organ.

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  • jenid31's Avatar
    Posted by jenid31 Mon Aug 4, 2008 11:59am PDT

    Having surgery will not change the relationship people have with food. People need to change their habits, not the physical size of their stomachs. Why not eat less and exercise? Thats what the surgery makes you do. Eat less and start working out. Yes losing weight is hard... you didn't put on the weight in a day, its not going to come off in a day.

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  • shannon n's Avatar
    Posted by shannon n Mon Aug 4, 2008 12:38pm PDT

    As a person who has had the surgery I an tell you this I tried everythingnothing worked.I had numerous health problems that made it even harder losing the weight on top of medications I had to be on that made it more difficult to lose weight.I weighed in at 366#s,I di the research and my drs wife had went to NC to have the surgery so he was well informed on it. He sent me to an excellent Dr who made me go thru nutitional classes pschylogical appointments before he new I was a good canidate.It was a whole new life style but it was needed I wouldve been dead if I hadnt had it.I never had any problems from the surgery itself just the anistesia and morphine but on that note I had the same problem when I had my ectopic pregnancy so if you want to say anything about the risks then yes there is always a risk with surgeries BUT theres a risk with everything and in some cases you have to weigh in the risks and decide which out come is going to be better. I have lost 169lbs and Im doing great Im not on as many meds and I have a whole different outcome on life and I will be alive to see my son graduate and maybe be around for another 50 or 60 yrs . Maybe have more kids as Im just going on 34 soon. If I hadnt had the surgery 4 yrs ago then I may not be alive today!!!!

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  • sylvbrdly's Avatar
    Posted by sylvbrdly Mon Aug 4, 2008 12:58pm PDT

    Before having WLS I was 330 lbs, unhappy and unhealthy. I slept with the help of a CPAP machine because I couldn't breathe and sleep at the same time. I took three different blood pressure medications, one drug for arthritis, and another two medications for pain. I walked with the assistance of a walker and was a burden to myself and my family. I feared having a heart attack and leaving behind my two children to fend for themselves without their mother. As with any other surgery I was cautious. I did my research and spoke with nurses who had worked with the physician I chose. Having worked in hospitals for the past twenty years I knew the questions to ask, and the people to ask the right questions. My family was very much against this procedure and continued to try to talk me out of it until the morning of the surgery. I finally asked them if they would want me to get treatment for cancer. Yes, they all said. Well, this weight is killing me as surely as cancer would and yet, you are against my getting treatment. I don't see anyone telling people with breast cancer not to have surgery. If you had a clogged artery people would be only too happy for you to have CABG. If you need your gall bladder removed no one thinks twice about it. Come out of the dark ages! Do real research before you start talking about things you have no true knowledge of. This surgery has restored good health to people who are seriously ill. I now eat 900 to 1000 calories a day. I eat very healthy, nutritionally dense foods. I am able to exercise everyday. I live without medical apparatus or medication. My blood pressure is normal. My blood sugar is normal. I sleep without apnea. I don't rely on anyone. I am now able to have the relationship with food that I wasn't able to before WLS. I wish Life was perfect and I hadn't needed surgery, but I did. Why is it that people who don't need this medical procedure often feel the need to diminish the importance of this procedure. I think that our society believes that fat people are incapable of making intelligent and informed decisions. All you skinny people must therefore take control and help out your poor fat friends else we will be taken advantage of. OH PLEASE! MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!

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  • Jett's Avatar
    Posted by Jett Mon Aug 4, 2008 1:14pm PDT

    Wow,kimberly b, I'm sorry to hear about the horrible time that your friend had after surgery, and shannon n, I'm glad that surgery was so beneficial to you and that you're feeling better.

    As a gut reaction response to one of the original questions, I would say no, our country's obesity problem will not be solved by WLS. I was actually just talking to my husband about this topic yesterday. We had a long discussion as we walked around D.C. about how the President's Counsel on Physical Fitness and Sports has lost its way, for lack of a better phrase. For a short time in the '80s, it was a big hit, but through lack of funding and adequate leadership, and perhaps uncertainty as to how to tackle such a large problem, it really doesn't do much of anything anymore.

    The conclusion that I came to during that discussion is that if there are people who care about solving the problem, and they're able, they have a responsibility to do so. So here goes...

    No, our problem, as a whole, will not be solved by WLT. It will help some people, but it will not solve the nation's obesity crisis, because the problem is not only eating too much. As kimberly b said, her friend did not eat too much but was still obese. The main thing that will help is getting across the idea of exercise. I've read in numerous publications that it is not enough to rely on the few calories burned by running errands to take care of our daily exercise requirements. Really getting in a good workout is essential, and from what I've heard from health professionals, exercise is the majority of the solution — you can afford to eat badly every now and then if you're still active. It's when people began sitting at desks all day long and no longer had time to work out that the obesity problem began reaching epic proportions.

    The rest of the problem will be solved by eating healthy — or healthier — but the key is exercise. People don't see this, though, because the media and product advertising are always stressing "Weight Loss" and "Eating Less." Nobody says "Increase Energy." And it doesn't have to be complicated. Walking and swimming are so good for the body. I think that's the key, but remember that this is coming from someone who is not a health professional and is, herself, overweight and has not yet climbed on the ball of daily exercise. It's a progression...

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  • Beth's Avatar
    Posted by Beth Mon Aug 4, 2008 1:31pm PDT

    sylvbrdly,

    Weetabix isn't trying to bash or diminish the surgery. She's a plus-sized sister also and understands what we go through, I agree with her and commend her for getting more educated about it to support her friend. I also agree that the surgery wouldn't work for everyone, and people don't realize that. They always lump us all in to the lazy fast food eating group, when we exercise and eat healthy food but still manage to stay big girls. We can only fight genetics so much. I've considered the possibility of getting the surgery in the future if I don't have any luck, but going through a major surgery terrifies me each time I've had one, and at this point I consider that the risks of getting it greatly out weigh the possible benefits for me because I don't have any medical issues weighing in at 230ish. And if I continue to eat healthy and exercise then I shouldn't have to worry about having any.

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  • Steph's Avatar
    Posted by Steph Mon Aug 4, 2008 1:53pm PDT

    My cousin had WLS, and it really worked for her. I'm a fatty, but I won't consider surgery. I'm going "au natural"; exercise and healthful eating. To each their own, just do your research and go into your choice with eyes wide open.

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  • mabcosmic's Avatar
    Posted by mabcosmic Mon Aug 4, 2008 2:23pm PDT

    Ya know, there's much ASSumptions made about people just by what they look like. How often do people look at a really thin person and think "I bet they don't eat" and when they look at a fat person think "wow they eat too much." We all should know better by now that not every skinny person is anorexic and not every fat person is a gluttonous hog.

    I wish people would stop harping on each other about eating right and exercising. There IS more than one reason a person can be fat you know. Unless you are someone's doctor, stop acting like an expert and try acting like a friend.

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Weight training and walking at the same time? Can you even do that?