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Thursday, December 17, 2009

Are you a guy's girl or a girl's girl?

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On Sunday night, Cameron Diaz was a guest "Real Time with Bill Maher," and the late night host made a rather presumptuous comment. After generalizing that Diaz is a quintessential California girl--the type that women want to be and men want to be with--Maher said, "I bet you have more male friends than female." Cameron replied, "I have a nice healthy balance of both." Then Maher made another generalization: "Usually girls are haters." Diaz went on to talk about how she loves women, she loves her friends, and that she's really a girl's girl...and a guy's girl.

While at first Maher's accusations annoyed me, I realized I do know some women who get catty around their beautiful friends. They are fixated on dating and men liking them, and often ditch their female friends for a guy. Cameron Diaz, who seemed to buddy up quite nicely with her "Charlie's Angels" costars, Drew Barrymore and Lucy Liu, never really struck me as someone who was unreasonably boy crazy or would sell out her lady friends for a dude. But we all know some women who would.

In my own life, I have close friendships with both males and females. I think there are elements to both types of relationships that are unique and beneficial. If I had to peg myself as a girl's girl or a guy's girl, I suppose my female relationships are stronger. I count on my ladies for unconditional love and support, while some of my male friends might be a little less dependable.

Are guy's girls flaky friends to other women? Not always. You can have more male friendships than female, but still treat the women in your life with respect and loyalty. But I have noticed that all my closest lady friends are girl's girls. The women I have been pals with over the years who were guy's girls ended up being bad friends. They hit on my dates, they ditched plans with me when a random guy called, they told men my secrets, and they were very competitive when we went out together. Worst of all, they were never happy for me when I was in a relationship, because they were jealous of the male attention I received. No thanks! When it comes to the ladies I let into my intimate circle, I stick with girl's girls.

If you're a guy's girl and think I'm off base, please share your experiences. If you've been screwed over by guy's girls, you can share your issues in the comments too. [Jezebel]
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  • W!LD CH!LD's Avatar
    Posted by W!LD CH!LD Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:14pm PDT

    I have one close girl friend!I have always been a guys girl... i have 3 sisters and 2 brothers. i have always gotten along better with my brother and cousin who are both guys. my 3 bestfriends are guys. I feel that women are too catty and always seem to be in competition with their girl friends(not guys girls as you said in your article). I enjoy being around guys because they have a more realistic out look on relationships also. when something happens with my relationship(say i find a #) if i tell my girl friend she automatically will say leave him alone, dump him, or assume the worst. girls give advice that they dont even live by!! But your guy friends will be honest with you no matter what and weigh out all the possibilities! In my opinion and being who i am i dont see anything wrong with being a guys girl. and i dont think it makes me any less of a friend to my sisters or girl friends...And as far as your friend hitting on your dates that is simply who she is and has nothing to do with who she hangs around. to be honest when me and a group of friends go out all the girls girls are all over the guys! you can catch me at the bar taking shots with the guys... your a little off in my book but hey this is based on your personal experiences right!

    xoxo wild child

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  • jennifer's Avatar
    Posted by jennifer Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:20pm PDT

    i am definately a girl's girl. always there for my girl friends, and my guy friends. but i do tend to notice how my guy friends flake at the last moment when something more "fun" might come up. Ditto with the "guy's girl" girlfriends. They definately tend to flake also. I've also noticed that the "guy's girls" are ones who like to start alot of drama and then love to act like they are above it. ugh. girl's girls seem to always be there for each other.

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  • martza's Avatar
    Posted by martza Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:02pm PDT

    ive always been a guys girl, i get along beter with boys than chicks but ever since my boyfrind i have lost touch with my guys friends :(

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  • opiniononly's Avatar
    Posted by opiniononly Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:30pm PDT

    The majority of my friends are, and usually have been, men. They complement, support and encourage my spirit of adventure and appreciate that I am not the least bit interested in changing them or creating drama in their lives or mine. Some are ex-boyfriends who morphed into a platonic friendships and some I've never slept with. I respect the boundaries they may place on our friendships when they are involved in a relationship (and have never slept with an ex-bf after we changed to a platonic friendship), and rarely have had problems with the women in their lives. Some I see as a couple, some I see without their partner...it all depends on what works for everyone involved. While I will respect if a woman is distrustful or concerned that her bf is a friend of mine, I leave those negotiations to them. Their relationship is none of my business, and I'll adjust communicating/seeing a male friend to what he and his partner agree is okay, but I don't walk away from the friendship. My friends have a lot of flexibility to be who they are and I find that my men friends seem to understand and appreciate that part of our friendship.

    Unlike the author, my men friends are more dependable, more emotionally open and more flexible in their attitudes than many women I know. We don't gossip (much), don't tear into someone who is not present, and generally just have a great time together. Of course, it helps that most of these guys have been in my life for upwards to 25 or 30 years and we've been through marriages, divorces, birth of children, death of family and friends, and life in general together.

    I'm a guy's girl. I care less about getting dirty, sweating, getting my hair wet, or breaking a nail when we play together...and they seem to appreciate that I don't play the "big strong man/save me/protect me/kill the bugs/I can't handle life without drama, trauma and endless conversations analyzing what was said vs. what was meant, what do I do now???" game that, unfortunately, many others like to play. They are diverse in interests, professions, intelligence, abilities and goals...and I love each one of them for who they were and who they are!

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  • kira's Avatar
    Posted by kira Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:03pm PDT

    I dont know if i would really consider myself a guy's girl but i do have both male and female friends. I am very loyal to all my girlfriends. ok wait im loyal to those that are good to me. i dont make good friends very easy, i have thick walls up, but once your in im a great friend to both male and females alike. i try hard not to hit on a guy if i knw my friends are interested but if not they are fair game. I am realizing now that most of my male friends have at one point in time been my boyfriend but i would also not mind if a friend dated an ex. i knw im a strange women.

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  • fahren's Avatar
    Posted by fahren Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:15pm PDT

    I don't have many close friends with women for this reason. I've said for years that some women are man oriented meaning they primarily want to please men and friendships with women are secondary to them and some women, like me, are women oriented meaning they get more fulfillment from their female friendships.

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  • ladybella04's Avatar
    Posted by ladybella04 Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:12pm PDT

    I'm a girly girl all the way and always have been. Can't live without my girlfriends. Love hanging out with the girls, shopping, having a few cocktails or getting coffee and chatting it up. Guys are great, but I love my gal pals!

    Also, in my experience, most guy "friends" I've had were only using the friendship to get close enough to try to have sex with me. Every time I think it's different and that we really are just friends, it turns out that to be the same old story. It's like "When Harry Met Sally"- Can men and women really be just friends? It seems like there is usually sexual tension.

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  • Heidi's Avatar
    Posted by Heidi Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:05pm PDT

    Most of my friends are men. I have a few female friends, but most women are just jealous of each other. I have known women who seemed to have everything going for them, who were still jealous of some other woman for some ridiculously petty reason. Men are mostly straightforward, nothing to hide, and they very rarely stab you in the back. Too many women want to hook you up with guys they know, and then try to undermine the relationship behind your back out of jealousy. Too much drama for me. Give me my boys any day!

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  • V-for-V-a-l-i-a-n-T™'s Avatar
    Posted by V-for-V-a-l-i-a-n-T™ Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:53pm PDT

    I saw the interview in question Joanna, Bill did not make any "accusations" on Cameron, it was "banter" because Cameron did not seem bothered at all, and she IS a "guys girl" you can just tell by her demeanor.

    The mood was friendly, not at all like "the Katie Couric interview" no serious queries, just normal talking, you act like he was GRILLING her alive! sheesh! lol

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  • Emmy's Avatar
    Posted by Emmy Wed Jul 1, 2009 9:17pm PDT

    I believe that you can't make such sweeping, broad generalizations. First off, women and men are both catty. If anyone has ever been friends with guys who are in a fraternity then they would know. Men talk just as much about other people behind their backs as women do and in some ways it is worse because a lot of people are blind to this side of men. If you walk in to this situation and are naive to it then you can become their next victim. Women are the same except you might expect it more and thus be prepared. Either way there are people who make good friends, and those who might not be right for you. There are those who use and abuse but also those who love and support you. How can you base someone's friendness off of the ratio of guys to girls they hang out with? That is like saying that a guy is gay because he has killer fashion sense and knows how to shop. Me, personally, like to hang out with guys and girls but in the end I know that the people who are my true friends are the ones that have my back all the time. The ones that don't mind you leaning on them and they must be willing to trust you as well. In my experience guys and girls can both suck but my best friends are my mom, my sister, boyfriend, and boyfriends mom. In today's day everything is about competition and I am afraid that the younger generations have embraced it a little too much. Even my girlfriends at school who I thought would support me no matter what threw me over if they got the chance because they wanted to be the center of attention or didn't want to be associated with someone who honestly didn't mind being who they were. These were people that I lived with, cried with, had fun with but I knew their true character and still accepted them to a degree. Would I share my deepest darkest secret with them? Hell no, it is mine and I obviously can't trust them with it BUT I can appreciate the good things about them. I think that is what people need to do. Appreciate people for what is good about them, accept the aspects of a persons character that can't be changed, and try to understand that we are not all alike nor do we come from the same background. If you are a "girls girl" or a girls guy" then great but no one should accept a pigeon hole stereotype like that. People are like a Rubics cube. Sometimes you get all of the colored squares to match up and it is a winning combo but sometimes you can only get 5 red and 4 blue together. It is not perfect, nor is this simile, but the idea is that you are close to perfection. Sometimes blue hates on red and sometimes red doesn't always understand blue but there they are.

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