Obama Kowtows Again, Embarrasses US

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  Posted by urassismine2 Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:46pm PST

  Political science teaches that diplomacy is key to having the luxury of asking. If you want, you must be able to say,"what can I do for you", before expecting quid-pro-quo, as a means to forwarding the establishment of a dialogue. Obama is gracious and understands the differences in cultures. that makes all of the difference, in other countries, an the way that they view acceptance. That is the science of politics."Acceptance"...Just a thought..one of my areas of study..

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  Posted by urassismine2 Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:47pm PST

  I know who to come see when i need to know, the internet, I see..nice.

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  Posted by Mhu Cao Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:36pm PST

  I agree with your thoughts on political science. Being gracious and humble are significant traits for a leader who wishes to persuade and unite. What concerns me is that he ignores the established political protocol and does it his way. Bowing to show another the top of one's head, or even lower, can be seen as disrespectful, mocking, or uncouth. Hand and legs positioning is important, too.

  Another potential implication is that one doesn't care enough about the meaning of the ceremony that they aren't bothered with details.

  Obama's diplomatic people have the obligation to give him a quick schooling in protocol, ceremony, and symbolic acts. He may have no crew like that, he may be ignoring what they tell him, or he doesn't really care.

  Diplomacy is where art meets political science, no?

  So, if he is attempting to be courteous, he may inadvertently showing disrespect or ignorance for performing a ceremonial act in poor form.

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  Posted by jodyy Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:03am PST

  I had a gut instinct that Obama wasnt the right person for the job.He keeps on proving that I was right. He is making u look foolish in front of the world. I have a question how many people who voted for Obama are now wishing they hadn't.

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  Posted by The Tedster Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:02pm PST

  Mhu, so who is your president then if not......the president? W and Cheney had the whole world hating us so Obama is having to deal w/ that? Estimates say that anti-Americanism is down by half. Why is being hated by the rest of the world a good thing? You're confusing being hated w/ being respected. What's the big deal about admitting what W was incapable of admitting, i.e. that we've made mistakes? Great countries should be humble and accountable. We've made tons of mistakes like slavery and race relations, the way we treated the Indians, internment camps for the Japanese in WW2, the bombing of Dresden, the Iraq war.

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  Posted by Mhu Cao Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:38am PST

  Tedster, I don't care what the rest of the world thinks. You assume they have the same education, shared values, same experience, and same standard of living that we do. THEY DON'T. You can't separate those and other factors from their views. Those differences ALL are reasons, by themselves, for others to dislike us. Also, many governments like to revile the US as a smoke screen for their internal problems.

  What you consider as humble is being effectively "strategically, financially, and socially on par" with the others.

  All of the bullsh!t about "admitting mistakes" is just that. Every country makes mistakes. In many countries, they don't care. In some Muslim countries, were are openly admitting weakness and subservience.

  As to your claim about "reduced anti-Americanism," are you serious????? The strongest critics of the US like us more now because we are so distracted and manipulable.

  Russia has backtracked on SALT treaties, and is making new multiple warhead missiles. Russia is weighing reintroducing communism.

  China is arming itself to a degree we haven't seen in decades. They own our $12 trillion debt.

  Korea now is back in the warhead business.

  Iran is nuclear.

  Venezuela is arming itself with Russian and Iranian technology.

  Nicaragua is suddenly a ward of Iran. I could continue.

  Sure they like us, because the they who like us now didn't like us using pressure and position to prevent the very things I mentioned.

  Their interests lie in destroying us. Anti-Americanism, as you see it, is reduced because we are going along with their schemes, and are destroying ourselves.

  We soon will be at war with other states, just as we are now with stateless actors. Obama has his eyes off the ball, he is playing pick-up politics, and we're all the worse fot it.

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  Posted by The Tedster Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:11pm PST

  Mhu, actually I don't assume what you say in your first paragraph but you make some excellent pts. Even if we disagree on some things, now is NOT a good time to show weakness.

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