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Tuesday, October 14, 2008

A vent: Why are women often bitchy to each other at work?

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By Nataly Kogan, from Work It, Mom!


A while back I wrote a post about the unfortunate way that confident women are often perceived in the workplace. As I’ve witnessed in my own career and as too many studies have suggested, they are viewed as aggressive, overbearing, and bitchy.

But recently I’ve come in contact with too many women who actually are bitchy to other women they work with. As I was dealing with one of them I started to wonder if there was something I was doing to cause her rudeness and bitchiness in communicating with me. I began to load my emails with all sorts of niceties and infused my phone conversations with her with an extra dose of politeness; her behavior didn’t change one bit. Then I met two other women who have dealt with her in the past and was relieved — how sad is that? — to learn that it was nothing personal towards me.

This certainly isn’t the first time this has happened. I spent the last ten years of my career working in extremely male-dominated environments and too many women I encountered there were just plain horrible. Bitchy, unwilling to network and be supportive, and extremely competitive. I had two older women, whom I’d met through networking, tell me quite plainly that they had a tough time getting to where they did and they weren’t about to make it easy for me by helping me. Nice, right?

I get that women from generations ahead of me had an extremely difficult time getting to positions of leadership and success. But it seems completely backwards that their reaction would be to NOT make it easier for younger women to follow in their footsteps. They’ve already made it, so what do they have to lose by helping others? All the great mentors I’ve had in my career have been men and I see older successful men network with, support, and help younger men all the time.

Dr. Stacey Raidin, who has a Ph.D. in psychology and studies women’s leadership (which basically means she knows a lot more than I can think up in this area), wrote an article where she suggests a few reasons for why women don’t support each other and network as well as men seem to. One of them stood out to me in particular: Because so few of us are in leadership positions, we operate from a position of scarcity — if I help another woman she might eventually compete with me for my position. This makes sense but it doesn’t make it right. If we don’t network better and support each other more we’ll be where we are today, with very few women leaders, fifty years from now.

I get really upset about this topic, if you haven’t noticed. It’s bad enough that we have to deal with men calling us bitchy when we’re being strong and assertive at work.

Why do we find it necessary to actually be bitchy to each other?

Nataly Kogan is the co-founder and CEO of Workitmom.com, an online community and helpful resource for busy moms.

Check out Nataly's recent posts on the Work It, Mom! Blog:

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  • Haylee S's Avatar
    Posted by Haylee S Fri Aug 1, 2008 9:32am PDT

    ahhhh I had to quit a job recently because my female co-workers were so rude to me. I don't understand. I never treat people like that, especially at work. It's ridiculous! I don't understand, but I liked the article.

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  • Chips's Avatar
    Posted by Chips Fri Aug 1, 2008 10:10am PDT

    Yes - I have this problem often - mostly from women who work for me being bitchy to me - I have spent a lot of time being introspective to see how I have contributed and even changed a few things to try to make it better but I won't let myself get bitchy because they are -

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  • noushigabk's Avatar
    Posted by noushigabk Fri Aug 1, 2008 10:19am PDT

    i agree with you 100% on everything you said... very true. it's been this way at every work environment i've been in, in the past 10 years.

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  • noushigabk's Avatar
    Posted by noushigabk Fri Aug 1, 2008 10:20am PDT

    so true!

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  • Amberla's Avatar
    Posted by Amberla Fri Aug 1, 2008 10:28am PDT

    SPOT ON. Nataly, I have been asking this for 10 years! And I'm only 25! It is rare to find a woman in a leadership position who is not (1) super-competitive, (2) bossy in an insecure and bitchy way, and (3) unwilling to share their power/expertise/sense-of-humor. WTF! It doesn't have to be like that! I understand how they must feel, but come on. Be a role model, enjoy your position of power, and be nice!!!

    I wish I could do something to change this overwhelming phenomenon in today's female psychology. Do we need to start a non-profit organization to educate women about this or something??

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  • tufflittlecreampuff's Avatar
    Posted by tufflittlecreampuff Fri Aug 1, 2008 11:05am PDT

    I am in the same situation in a managment position with rude and obnoxios middle aged women who do nothing but throw me under the bus as much as possible, it almost seems like they are envious of me being so young, they make the workplace unbearble and i stuck it out for a year and am now getting the heck out of here

    !

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  • LadyBug's Avatar
    Posted by LadyBug Fri Aug 1, 2008 11:20am PDT

    Ok, I'm probably considered the "bitchy" person at work, but I have reason!! I've spent many hours training my counterpart. Three years to be exact. What I get back from her everyday of work is "I don't know" "I'm stupid" and "I don't remember" THREE YEARS!!!! I'm not saying that she should know everything, but she should at least have the knowledge to do her job correctly without having to ask someone everyday. She's asking a question right now that she should already know!!!!!!!!! And the worst part of the whole situation is, I get blamed for her not knowing things because I trained her. She also tries to blame me when she does something wrong, saying I never showed her that. So sometimes, but not all the time, we have to be bitchy cause honestly I can't take being nicey nice to her anymore!!!!!!!

    Thanks for letting me vent!! lol

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  • shymain's Avatar
    Posted by shymain Fri Aug 1, 2008 11:22am PDT

    I'm relatively the youngest person in a office with 90% women. I am always treated rudely by the women. I don't dress provactively or do anything to attract the attention of my male counterparts. I often thought that maybe there was some type of unspoken competition because I was younger and thought to be more attractive. Maybe it is the fact that I have fresher and new ideas and they feel threatened, that I may take their place? I personally feel that women should stick together and that a lot of the more mature women have a vast wealth of knowledge that can be shared with us,who are just starting out in our careers.

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  • manda's Avatar
    Posted by manda Fri Aug 1, 2008 11:40am PDT

    I am an office manager with only about six people under me all of whom are women. I came into this office trying to be nice and help everyone out all that has done is backfire on me. The other women have all tried to get me fired or in trouble one way or another. They have all lied to me when asked how to do something trying to get me caught not following procedure. I don't know why it has to be like this, but they are forcing me to be a nasty b---- everytime I try to do something nice it bites me in the ass. I am no longer trying to be nice and help everyone out. They can either do their job or leave. No more being nice.

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  • Rowdygirl's Avatar
    Posted by Rowdygirl Fri Aug 1, 2008 11:43am PDT

    Just remember back when you were in school.. girls are just plain mean, and the bad ones turn into bitches when they grow up. Simple as that. I work in an office building with government contractors; on my side of the building with my group, including me, there are 2 women. The other side of the building there are mostly women. The majority of them are outright rude. I'm talking about the kind of rude where you pass in the hall or restroom, say "hello" and they look right through you as if you didn't exist. There is no reason for this; we have no job competition, interaction.. nothing. They're just hateful. But let one of the guys in the building pass by and it's a whole other story.. so obvious it's sickening. By the way, I'm no hottie, so it's not a competition thing at all. Mean girls grow up to mean women..

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