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Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Is it ok to write "hiya" and "thanx" after an interview?

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I’m quoted in the lead of a piece in today’s Wall Street Journal about the use of shorthand and emoticons among job seekers when sending thank you notes after an interview. After interviewing several qualified candidates for a summer internship, I knocked one out of the running for using “hiya” and “thanxs” – not to mention excessive exclamation points and a smiley – in her email after our meeting.

I get why a generation that’s grown up on texting, which is inherently shorthand, would carry that into their professional conversation too. Instead of allowing the boundaries to continue to blur, should someone try to stop them in the workplace? You’d hope the same people who write that way wouldn’t wear beach attire to an interview.

But after reading the WSJ piece, I wondered if those of us in our 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond are simply out of touch. Are we clinging to the horse and buggy while everyone else speeds off in their cool cars?

Someone’s got to give, no? Perhaps the workplace protocols will loosen and we’ll all accept the shorthand and the accompanying smiley faces. Even now employers are likely to abandon formality when there’s a particularly strong candidate they’re eyeing even when that person says “thanks for ur time.”

Or will the rules remain rigid—with younger generations improving grammar and punctuation in professional communication because they grow tired of missing out on opportunities?

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Tory Johnson is the CEO of Women For Hire, which produces high-caliber recruiting events and online career services to connect professional women with leading employers nationwide.

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  • yoyoma's Avatar
    Posted by yoyoma Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:30pm PDT

    sending a thank you note after an interview is a good idea, you should still remain professional while writing it. If the interview went well and the conversation between you and the person you interviewed with was casual and light, don't abuse that comfort level too soon. I would recommend the letter, but dont be too relaxed about it.

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  • Ashlee's Avatar
    Posted by Ashlee Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:50pm PDT

    WOW!!! I'm 20 and reading this actually pisses me off a bit. People like her make me look bad. It was not professional at all and I don't believe that you are out of touch here at all. My husband the other day said, "I think when our kids are our age, words won't be words anymore." I totally agree with him. Everything is going to be text bull crap. I hate that.

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  • elissyann's Avatar
    Posted by elissyann Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:20pm PDT

    totally unacceptable when looking for a job. I'm not the most formal person in the world, but I wouldn't even write "thanks." "Thank you" is more appropriate.

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  • PORKCHOP's Avatar
    Posted by PORKCHOP Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:01pm PDT

    No.

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  • Amy Ann's Avatar
    Posted by Amy Ann Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:28am PDT

    No, shorthand is never acceptable, either are smiley's, nor the multiple exclamation points, nor the ALL CAPS TEXT. These are things that driving crazy in my personal life and they would drive me doubly crazy in my professional life. I really do think that texting, IMing, etc... are all ruining the English language- and I am in my 20's!

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  • jenny's Avatar
    Posted by jenny Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:33am PDT

    If she was in the "running" obviously before this note, she came across as professional. Her way of replying with a "thanx" may have simply been the comfort level she felt with you after. Maybe naivity more than the inability to be professional when needed, as well I doubt she was trying to be purposely rude/disrespectful. Maybe it was just her way of keeping the aftermath casual, which can make even those in their 30's and 40's feel more comfortable depending on the "type" of business it is. If she was "indeed" the best qualified for the internship/job outside of this; I don't know that I would risk losing talent for something I feel is over-all "petty" in the sense that probably just simply telling her that in the future that even though "you get it", the business world is probably not quite ready. Shorthand has been used forever in the courts. I am personally not worried that my children will not learn and/or use proper "words". I believe it is more that you have to have a pretty good understanding of them to know how to "shorten" them in a way that others do "get" what you're trying to convey. In any case it's best to look at the over-all not focus on "one" thing about any person. Jenny

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  • Brandi's Avatar
    Posted by Brandi Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:12am PDT

    I am a 20-something employing other 20-somethings and I think the rules still need to be enforced, at least as far as the interviewing/application process goes. I think it's great to be able to relax the rules AFTER the person is hired, but formality never hurts during the interview process.

    Then again, it all depends on the workplace. Some jobs will probably always need a certain level of formality and professionalism, so sticking to the rules will get you the right person for the job.

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  • jenny's Avatar
    Posted by jenny Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:28am PDT

    I was just reading Brandi's reply which sort of brought out another line of questioning within myself being a previous business owner. "I think it is great to relax the rules AFTER the person is hired" - Brandi. My question then is, would you rather know the "real" person before or after they work for you and/or the company? There are some professional and "GREAT" first impressioners out there, but often have proved to be, not so great employees. "One hit wonders" perhaps?. I want to be clear I am not putting down and/or trying to insult Brandi. Her remark just sincerely made me think a little further on the subject. At this moment though I still stand in my first ending thoughts of my previous comment and that is, it's best to look at the over-all and too add........sometimes more than once. Jenny

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  • jenny's Avatar
    Posted by jenny Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:47am PDT

    On an interesting note...this blog/post at least spotlights that being "formal/professional" is not always what makes you "memorable" and/or interesting enough too discuss. Therefore I have to believe Miss "hiya"/"thanx" will do fine in making her mark in this world without this internship or leaving smiley's behind!!!! She may even be one of the few that can say she did it by simply being true and real to herself and those associated with her business and personal wise in the end. Jenny

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  • Brandi's Avatar
    Posted by Brandi Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:50am PDT

    Jenny, you make a great point. You are right that some people can make a great first impression and then turn out to be not so great employees. I still believe, though, that if a person can be professional in an interview then they have a better chance of being professional in a position because they at least show that they know what professional behavior is like. And I also think that a potential employee can show their "real" self without being unprofessional. You can have show individuality AND be professional at the same time.

    And going back to your original comment, I completely agree that we shouldn't be making decisions based solely on one thing. It's just that in my experience, it is not just the one thing (text-shorthand) that pops up, it is usually just one of a few issues that signal to me that perhaps this person is not ready for a professional environment. If it were just the one thing, maybe it could be used as a learning experience instead of not hiring based solely on that.

    Of course I should note that I work with college students and many of them have never held A job, let alone a professional one, so maybe my experiences are outside the norm.

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