Monday, November 30, 2009

Should teens have jobs?

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So, we've talked about how tough it is for teens to find jobs this summer, but beneath that dilemma is the underlying question: Should teens work? I'm not sure when that became a question since it is clearly a query posed among families with the means to make it debatable. But as teens get more involved in school activities, AP classes, and volunteer work as they prepare for college, fitting a part time job into the mix gets challenging.

You can rationalize work away for teens easily because they can get plenty busy with school and activities. But I am a big believer in the need for teens to do some paid work for several reasons, and they're not all about money. Sure, top of the list of reasons is the ability to earn money and manage money by deciding how much to keep for spending (and what to spend it on), and how much to save for educational or other goals. But by working in a variety of jobs, teens are exposed to all kinds of people, managers, and working conditions.

In high school, I worked at a food store, and learned quickly how to get along with people who were nasty, angry, or just plain not having a good day. I learned how hard it is to stand on your feet for several hours at a clip, and what it's like to not be able to take a break whenever you feel like it. I also was able to save up enough money to pay for books and expenses when I got to college. At a time when kids are already crafting resumes and thinking about how certain experiences will give them an edge in the college-application craziness, I still think working in a service-industry job is important training for just about anything in life.

Like all good things in life, the answer to the teen-work question is not yes or no but moderation. Thomas Hine, the author of "The Rise and Fall of the American Teenager," tells Caroline Wilbert on Divine Caroline that some work is good but too much is not. He also recommends that parents be involved in helping teens budget their money so they save for future goals. But he agrees it's important for teens to learn how to work with all kinds of people, though he thinks it's better if they work with more adults instead of working around a bunch of teenagers in a fast-food joint or the like. “One of the good things that work does is it gives you an opportunity to work in an arena that is not school, to be responsible, to be depended on, to be judged,” Hine said.

To build a good work ethic, kids have to actually work, be it doing chores at home, or volunteering steadily for an organization in the community, or working a paid job. A survey of managers by SnagAJob.com found that 56 percent of them agree with the statement, "today's youth do not have the same work ethic as previous generations have had."

If you've gotten past the point of debating whether teens should work and want to figure out how to make it fit well in their lives, here are some guidelines from the Child Labor Coalition:

Under 14

  • no work -- concentrate on school, family, and other activities.

14- and 15-year-olds

  • summer employment: no more than 6 hours per day; 30 hours per week.
  • employment during the school year: no more than 3 hours per day; 15 hours per week.

16- and 17-year-olds

  • summer employment: no more than 8 hours per day; 40 hours per week.
  • employment during the school year: no more than 4 hours per day; 20 hours per week.
So let's hear it. Where do you stand on teens and jobs? Should they work, and what kinds of jobs offer the best kind of experience? And how many hours are too many hours to work?
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  • allee's Avatar
    Posted by allee Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:03am PDT

    I had jobs as a kid, started with a paper route during the summer. Age 10-12. Then moved to helping out parent on weekends when extra help was needed on weekends usually. But could also work 8-12 hr days, easily.

    At 17 started working full time.

    Now my kids age 14, mow the lawn, and other chores. Get an allowance. But do not have an official need a work permit like i did , job...

    They have some after school activities during the yr. During the summer they should have a kid life.

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  • Nini Poo's Avatar
    Posted by Nini Poo Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:48am PDT

    Being an adult who always had a job from age 12- current, I can't emphasize enough that children should have jobs!! Age 12-16 meant watching the kids down the street on the weekends and doing the laundry for the parents when things got hectic around the house. At age 16, I became a waitress and I can't stress to everyone how important that job was!!! During the school year, I worked a few days a week after work and during the summer, I worked almost full time during the day.

    When in college, I worked as a waitress in a more expensive restaurant then moved on to more professional, office environment-type jobs. I'm now an Executive Assistant to the VP in a Marketing company and I thank the experience from my waitressing jobs every day.

    In my first jobs, I learned patience, customer-service skills, money responsibilities, adult interaction, multi-tasking. I matured and grew and became an adult through my work history.

    Working gives you something that just school will not. My sister has three kids (14, 12, and 6). She has put her foot down about her kids not working until they are out of college. She thinks their focus should be on school and school only. WTF!!?? I can't even to begin to understand why she thinks that. Those kids are going to get out of college, apply for all sorts of jobs and they'll get no where. Potential employers will want seasoned, experienced people to add to their workforce-- not unskilled, inexperienced, spoiled brats that never had to worry about anything in their life other than getting good grades.

    My advise-- kids should work!

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  • Miss D's Avatar
    Posted by Miss D Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:15am PDT

    It may sound like were stealing their youth but I got to agree, have them work. Life is not easy, anything you can do to help your family or yourself, do it. Just charge it to experience. I worked my ass off since teenage years. Been a saleslady, promo girl and promodizer. Now I work in a corporate world, looking back...it was hard but I learned.

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  • TORRESJ's Avatar
    Posted by TORRESJ Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:16am PDT

    im 17 and last year during the summer i got my first job at dunkin donuts/baskin robins. i kinda liked working there couse i got to socilize with co workers and stuff.the money wasnt much but it felt good having somthing i could spend on what i wanted and saying i earned it.summer ended and i decided i would try to go to school and still work part time.in the end there was way too much pressure keeping up with both the school work and the work responsibilities. in the end i quit but i felt that i learned some things that will help me out.

    this year im spending the sommer working towards a car working with my dad in construction and trust me this is hard work.i think i understand the meaning of a doller and i respect my dad a whole much for what he goes through every day.

    i think that having a summer job is a all around great experence and you should support your kids to have one but when summer ends i think its best not to have a job unless is necessary to have one.

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  • not yet expecting's Avatar
    Posted by not yet expecting Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:32am PDT

    I also think teens should work. At 16 I was debating whether or not to, what job to apply for. The following summer I started my first job as a cashier at a department store, then moved onto CSR (customer service). In my 2 years there I trained 5 new associates for cashiering positions, some of whom later took on CSR as well. After my 2 years there, I left the job to focus full time on college and lived with my parents, taking 2 buses each way, taking mostly morning classes, so that I could save time & money by not commuting or living on campus. I didn't make that much from cashiering/CSR and really did not need to spend it on anything, I kept it in a checking account, and got a job as an admin for a small business close to home where scheduling was more flexible so I could work there evenings and weekends around classes. At these jobs I learned many people, communication, service and other skills that school alone would just reiterate or only introduce and imply that you learn best by doing, that is, working. So I think teens should work. Not necessarily paid work, but any work- babysitting, waitress/food service, store jobs, movie theater jobs, helping on the farm, household chores, or even volunteering. It's up to the teen to choose what s/he wants to try first and see if s/he likes it/is good at it, see what that leads to- an attraction to or repulsion from a related field that uses those skills/abilities, etc. I feel kids shouldn't be forced to work a certain job if they have a choice, but in this economy, if they can't get the job they want to begin with, helping out at home is just as valuable- my parents made me dust all the rooms upstairs and the stair railings every 2 weeks while they vacuumed and did laundry, and even though I never liked doing it, I can, and furthermore, I know I have to regularly, like it or not. Also, work during the schoolyear helps with time management, even if the kid is in other activities. Work during the summer helps kids earn (and hopefully save) money as well as experience with different people- ages, personalities- and types of work. For instance, tutoring peers before/after school, even in the summer, will provide insight into the teaching profession, after school sports will do the same for a possible pro sports career or consider coaching, or even a healthier lifestyle, etc. The opportunities out there are endless, even if that means unpaid work. I think that employers, when they see that a new grad has worked somewhere as a student, will not care if it was paid or not but rather ask the candidate what they learned/took away from their jobs. I've been asked that. The answer to that can make or break a job offer! As for how many hours, I'd say 20-25/week during school year, and as many as 50/week is fine in the summer, including weekends, if scheduling allows.

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  • Hunibunni's Avatar
    Posted by Hunibunni Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:03am PDT

    I agree with nini. I had a baby-sitting job when I was 13, then I started working at the local ice-cream shop when I was 15.5, which was the youngest you could legally work in the state of Ohio. I had to be g my mom to let me work that young, but it was a great opportunity for me. I stayed at the ice-cream shop for over 3 years until I graduated high school, and I became a daytime manager in the summer in the process. I learned lessons that cannot be taught in school, and I learned that you can achieve raises/promotions if you apply yourself. In high school, not only did I work, but I played volleyball year round, softball in the spring and summer, took college classes at the local community college, and maintained my 3.85 GPA. It can be done, and I learned a lot about time management, which benefitted me in college where I was on my own and had to financially support myself for most of the years. Working is a means for people to understand responsibility, and then also to be rewarded for the time and effort that they put into the job.

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  • Jane Becker's Avatar
    Posted by Jane Becker Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:15am PDT

    Oh, yeah, they should work while the parents go off to Costa Rica:

    http://thedamedomain.blogspot.com/2008/06/finding-perfect-summer-job-for-your.html

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  • beautykween's Avatar
    Posted by beautykween Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:49am PDT

    i'm 23 and have been working since I was 16 (even earlier if you count babysitting around the neighborhood). i'm glad my parents encouraged me to begin working as a teenager, because it gave me an extra feeling of accomplishment when my paychecks came in. although i wasn't making a huge amount of money, i was able to afford to go out with friends and buy things for myself, without having to rely on my parents. i worked all the way through college, and like someone mentioned above, was able to pay for things like books and lab fees. also, having jobs through college (while maintaining a great GPA) looks great on my resume!

    i have friends who had the "luxury" of not working until they graduated college, and so many of them are clueless in the real world. i'm thankful that i worked hard at my jobs when i was younger, as i really believe they prepared me for my "big-girl job"!

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  • mrscolbert's Avatar
    Posted by mrscolbert Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:58pm PDT

    For some teenagers, minimum wage is hardly enough money to justify the gas to go back and forth to that job, if there are no jobs within a short distance of the home and there is no public transit.

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  • not yet expecting's Avatar
    Posted by not yet expecting Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:12pm PDT

    mrscolbert:

    I see your point but if there's a job for a teen not too far away from either home or school that doesn't pay too much, but the teen still needs/wants $$, the teen should consider biking, rollerblading, skateboarding or even walking to and from it. That uses no gas at all and gets some exercise in there too!

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