The Fulcrum: Is Liz Lemon the new Mary Richards?

Mary Tyler Moore: CBS;Tina Fey: NBC

Mary Tyler Moore: CBS;Tina Fey: NBC

Welcome to a new feature on Shine, The Fulcrum, where we take current TV shows and compare them to their older, original counterparts. Our inspiration? The lovely ladies you see to your left: Tina Fey and Mary Tyler Moore.

Who here watches the hee-lar-ious 30 Rock? Maybe its hiatus from the ole boob tube has made me grow fonder of the show, but I've been been missing new episodes. Like the deserts miss the rain.

So much that I've also probably been thinking about it too much. It dawned upon me (from my avid watching of Nick at Nite as a kid) that Tina Fey's Liz Lemon is eerily similar to Mary Tyler Moore's Mary Richards. A little graphical comparison after the jump!


As you can see from my highly sophisticated design skills, there are a lot of similarities between the two characters! To any other fans out there, if I'm missing anything, leave it in the comments and I'll add in your suggestions.


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  • Hugh Donagher's Avatar
    Posted by Hugh Donagher Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:33am PDT

    I'm not sure the deserts can miss the rain. Can you miss something you never had?

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  • keith's Avatar
    Posted by keith Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:41am PDT

    mary richards was drop dead gorgeous model material, liz lemon is the nerdy girl next door with nothing but a decent rack you didn't notice until she wore a bathing suit to the neighborhood pool party so you decided to go for it but then totally regretted it because at the end of the day she is still just a nerdy girl next door. NOT the hot girl at the office you decide to go for and thank god every day after that you did. that's a BIG difference.

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  • THOMASG's Avatar
    Posted by THOMASG Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:37am PDT

    mary was a little screechy and painful to watch.

    liz is cute and footstompingly funny.

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  • Cheryl's Avatar
    Posted by Cheryl Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:31am PDT

    Take a gorgeous girl, make her funny and smart, throw in some insecurity and self-doubt and you've not only got Mary Richards and Liz Lemon, you've got "I Love Lucy." For 50 years, the formula really hasn't changed, has it? Humor is in the imperfections. It just wouldn't be as funny if Liz was

    the Jack, Mary was the Lou, and Lucy was the Ricky. Or would it?

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  • Kim's Avatar
    Posted by Kim Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:47am PDT

    Does this mean that Tracey Jordan is the new Ted Baxter?

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  • Megan Carr's Avatar
    Posted by Megan Carr Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:56am PDT

    The biggest difference to me is that Mary Tyler Moore didn't have any input to what Mary said. Both Tina and her characters are writers first, then funny attractive ladies.

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  • lengthwise's Avatar
    Posted by lengthwise Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:15am PDT

    you're about a year late and several dollars short. and they say no one has original ideas anymore.

    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20033306,00.html

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  • Donald's Avatar
    Posted by Donald Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:02pm PDT

    Actually Liz Lemon is more like Rose Marie from "Dick Van Dyke"

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  • SingleWomenRule.com's Avatar
    Posted by SingleWomenRule.com Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:53pm PDT

    It is soooooo disturbing that it is sooooo funny that Mary and Liz are both "successful at work" and "losers in love".

    Can we not have it both ways? Why does it have to be a trade off?

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  • Jamie's Avatar
    Posted by Jamie Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:56pm PDT

    If this is the quality of writing I have to look forward to in this ridiculous "web site for women," I am insulted. Find some subjects and verbs for all those sentence fragments, and be sure you have some actual insight before you even bother.

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