US MILITARY SHOOTING LIVE ANIMALS FOR TRAINING

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  Posted by springtime Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:13pm PDT

  If this were true, this would be an investigative reporter's dream assigment. CNN would have reporters all over the site! So would every other major news source.

  But nothing from them. Wonder why?

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  Posted by Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:21pm PDT

  Breaking News/Updates ( this was taken from the honolulu advertiser)

  Updated at 4:11 p.m., Monday, July 28, 2008

  PETA pressures military to stop using animals for trauma training

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  By JAYMES SONG

  Associated Press

  Animal-rights activists are calling on the U.S. to stop using animals as subjects to help train its military, calling the medical and trauma exercises cruel and a disservice to the troops.

  The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter today to Defense Secretary Robert Gates asking him to replace the use of animals with non-animal methods such as human simulators.

  In the letter, PETA said the military inflicts gunshot, burn and chemical wounds on monkeys, pigs and goats for training.

  "This outmoded practice is not only cruel, but is a disservice to the men and women who risk their lives in defense of our country and who deserve the most effective trauma training methods available," wrote Kathy Guillermo, director of the PETA's Laboratory Investigations Department.

  The Pentagon did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

  PETA's letter comes 10 days after the group failed to prevent the Army from shooting live pigs and treating their gunshot wounds in a medical trauma exercise at Schofield Barracks.

  The soldiers were with the 3rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, which is deploying to Iraq this year.

  The Army said the training is critical to teach soldiers how to manage critically injured patients within the first few hours of their injuries when there are no medics, doctors or facilities nearby.

  PETA believes the military's Combat Trauma Patient Simulation system, which is being used at other bases such as Camp Pendleton in California and Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, is a more advanced and humane option.

  In its letter, the Norfolk, Va.-based group cited a 2006 New York Times report that quoted a Navy medic who described the training he witnessed involving pigs.

  "They shot him twice in the face with a 9-millimeter pistol, and then six times with an AK-47 and then twice with a 12-gauge shotgun. And then he was set on fire. ... I kept him alive for 15 hours. That was my pig."

  PETA also noted the Department of Defense's animal welfare policy that states, "Alternative methods to the use of animals must be considered and used if such alternatives produce scientifically valid or equivalent results to attain the research, education, training, and testing objectives."

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  Posted by Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:22pm PDT

  Animals are for eatin!

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  Posted by HotCrossBuns Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:28pm PDT

  If you really want your voices heard, I wouldn't rely on PETA's reputation as a body of screwy extremists to get you anywhere. Putting their name on anything is almost a guarantee the matter will be disregarded and your letters sent to File 13!

  I support animal rights 100% and agree that there is something seriously wrong with a government that relies on torturing animals for training its soldiers. But if you truly want to get your messages through to the Department of Defense, try writing the same letter as a supporter of the US Humane Society. At least then you have a chance of being heard!

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  Posted by HotCrossBuns Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:30pm PDT

  Springtime, it actually is true...just check out the Humane Society's webpage regarding the issue:

  http://www.hsus.org/animals_in_research/animals_in_research_news/military_uses_pigs.html

  Like I said previously, putting PETA's name on anything raises questions to the validity of the matter!

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  Posted by ChiS Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:49pm PDT

  When the aliens arrive, there's going to be a group called AETH (Aliens for the Ethical Treatment of Humans). They're going to use humans for testing cosmetics, death rays, and artificial sweeteners. They're going to try us in different recipes. There will be alien restaurants serving humans. One of the most popular dishes will be man-on-a-stick, followed closely by woman-on-a-stick. They're going to turn the planet into a wasteland so that they can drill for molten lava, their source of energy. Humans will be covered with molten lava and die.

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  Posted by springtime Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:56pm PDT

  Thanks, HotCrossBuns.. I will look at this because of your recommendation. I make my living by breaking and training horses in the most dignified manner possible. I am also 100% animal. I started riding when I was five, and started training at twelve.

  But you are right about PETA. Just like a bunch of little poodles running around your ankles, making constant noise and so irritating.

  But still... how can a pig withstand SIX rounds with an AK 47 and then shotgun blast. I have a shotgun.. that alone would blow the hind quarters off a pig with just one blast. That part just doesn't ring true.

  Typical PETA.

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  Posted by Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:04pm PDT

  actually it is going on , if you don't belive too bad but it is on the newspaper I left the article, go to wwww.honoluluadvertiser.com and search for militariy shooting pigs, I am not joking

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  Posted by springtime Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:38pm PDT

  I don't have to go anywhere. I know PETA. I volunteer at a horse recovery barn. What we see would make you sick. Some PETA people showed up in April, 2007. The head equine vet stepped out and said...

  " Glad to see you people. To rehabilitate an abused horse is expensive. Maybe you'd like to leave a donation to help us out".

  You should have seen them running back to their shiny SUVs and speed away.

  Don't talk to me about PETA.

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  Posted by Emily Tue Aug 5, 2008 5:38pm PDT

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