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Friday, December 11, 2009

How not to annoy your friends who don't have kids.

The Haves and the Have-nots usually refer to socioeconomic classes, but could just as easily apply to women with and without kids. In the interest of shrinking the chasm that sometimes forms between the two, we offer an open letter on behalf of childless gals to their mother-bear pals.

Acknowledge the elephant in the room when you breast-feed in front of us.

Just a simple, good-natured, "Winnebagos, right?" will do, because it's killing us to pretend we're not enthralled and distracted.

Keep track of mileage.


The distance between your place and our place is indeed a schlep, especially with a crabby toddler in tow, and we agree that it's easier for us to come to you. Just please do not take this for granted: Don't make plans with us and then say, "Great, so you can come out here on Saturday the 7th, Sunday the 15th, or any night the following week." Offer to make the trip occasionally--maybe once every four visits. We'll be so bowled over by the gesture, we probably won't even take you up on it.

Go ahead and e-mail us a picture of your kid.


We're happy to see Zoe's first haircut (by her own hands, with your pinking shears) or signs of Jacob's first teeth or evidence of Lily's self-christening in buttercream frosting from her birthday cake. But please do not abuse the privilege: We don't need to see daily digital pictures; we are not compiling a time-lapse flip-book of le petit's life thus far. If we e-mail back saying, "Hmm, couldn't open the attachment," please refrain from bombarding our in-box with eight ways to view the blessed picture. Your Kodakgallery.com password will not help us when we have to meet with the boss in 10 minutes. (Read what Crabmommy has to say about those overly-obsessed Multiemedia Moms.)

Don't be shy about disciplining your kid in front of us.


After all, it's what we long to do ourselves while you insist on pretending we're having a normal conversation over his screeching/slapping/kicking/biting fit. Calling him on his bad behavior won't make us think you have a bad kid or that you're a bad parent. (In fact, we'll think quite the opposite!) We will forever appreciate the time you had the courage to step in there and stop your pride and joy from turning our Marc Jacobs shoulder bag into a finger-painted Jackson Pollock.

Children's birthday parties are best for children and those who take care of them.

Please understand--and say so--when we RSVP "no thanks" to your 4-year-old's "cowperson and Native American" shindig. And forgive us for not sending a gift. After all, your house already has exceeded its quota of $25 colorful plastic wonders.(Related: The truth about birthday party etiquette.)

Try to keep in mind...


...that Anthony from the Wiggles is no sane woman's idea of sexy.

Scavenge your memory for what qualifies as adult fun.


If we're driving all the way out to see you in the 'burbs, figure out something a little more entertaining than shadowing you on your daily errands and car pools. The steam-table salad bar at the grocery store should never, ever be passed off as "a great little place to grab lunch." Not to be too picky, but if you're having us over for dinner, please do not serve blister packs of applesauce and stegosaurus-shaped chicken nuggets.

Call us back if you have to.


We won't take offense. We know you have to keep an eye on the kids, but try to keep at least a quarter of your brain on the conversation. (We're ashamed to admit this, but we thought you were talking to us the first dozen or so times you said, "You're a good girl. Yes you are.")

Stop with the self-pitying asides about our sleep cycles, spending habits, and sex lives.


"Must be nice to stay in bed past 6:30 a.m." "Must be nice to buy clothes for yourself." "Must be nice to go on vacation in Costa Rica and have a one-week stand with a hot 24-year-old Australian surf instructor." Yes, it is nice, and we will not feel guilty about it. And we could throw plenty of must-be-nices right back at you. (Sex and the American Dad: You might think it's a nagging little worry—but to him, it's a full-blown emergency.)

Leave the kids with a sitter from time to time.

heck, we'd even settle for once a decade--to let us know that our friendship, love, and support are worth at least $8.50 an hour. We'll even give ourselves a lift home.

And years hence, when we're toting our own sling full of baby, do not utter (or even think), "See? We told you so."

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  • BETH's Avatar
    Posted by BETH Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:37am PDT

    So glad to see this article! I am one of the few of my friends without kids. I'd love to have them but it just isn't my time yet. In the meantime I get so frustrated with just about all the things mentioned in the article! I can't tell you the times I've made an innocent comment like "I'm tired" and been bombarded with the good old "You think you're tirred now?? Just wait to you have kids and see what a real job is like!" REAL JOB??? Of course I know having kids is a real job but just because I don't have them yet doesn't make my current job any less real or tiresome!!

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  • HotCrossBuns's Avatar
    Posted by HotCrossBuns Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:51am PDT

    OMG, i'm supposed to be paying a babysitter $8.50 an hour!? Is that for 1 child or 3!? Egads!

    Even as a parent of 3 kids, I am loving this article!I get so sick of the other parents who allow their kids to dictate their lives telling me the same things as above. Just grow a pair already and take your life back, parents!

    Seems most of this advise just references some basic etiquette practices, and let's face it, that's something else that seems to go lacking once a couple has reproduced!

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  • Leaf's Avatar
    Posted by Leaf Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:50am PDT

    I jumped in my chair for joy when I read about the birthday parties. I have a large group of friends and quickly stopped doing, well anything, as a group once the kids started coming but they have a birthday party for everyone of them every year and never understand why I don't come. Don't I enjoy hanging out with my friends? Sure just not over the din of 15 kids screaming through the house flinging snot while my friends sit around talking about diaper rash!

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    Posted by opiniononly Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:59am PDT

    wonderful article, but may I add...I think that women who breast feed should ask if their friends are uncomfortable her doing so before they start nursing, or announce they are going to before starting so...especially if it is being done at their friends' homes. I don't object and luckily have had friends who answered all my dumb non-mom curious questions about it, but I also have friends who don't want to watch a woman breast feed, especially in mixed company. I am not at all saying a woman needs to go hide while she is feeding her child, but a heads up courtesy allows for others to decide if they want to watch vs. averting their eyes or feeling ackward.

    Moms...what are your thoughts about breast feeding in semi-public situations in friends' homes?

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  • AmandaG's Avatar
    Posted by AmandaG Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:26pm PDT

    Thank you!! I really wish this article had come out before my best friend and I grew apart because I think she needed to hear all these tips. I got so tired of her acting like she was better then me just because she was married and had a child. I really miss her sometimes, but I was tired of our friendship being onesided. I have another tip: If you're a mother, don't get all offended if us childless gals don't act excited about your baby's firsts! No, I don't understand what is so great about your baby's first #2 diaper! Eww! You were single and childless once.

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  • Jenn's Avatar
    Posted by Jenn Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:42pm PDT

    To leave this mom's comment on OPINIONONLY question:

    I breast-feed for 14 months, when my son was hungry-he was feed (no matter where we were you would do the same for a bottle feed baby). I breast-feed in public when he couldn't wait and didn't hide in a bathroom or dressing room. Your friends should be aware that you breast feed but they should understand you have to be a parent and do things for your kids. If your friends can't understand that, are they really friends you want around your kid? I understand that it creeps some people out, but this is a choice I made. I am NOT a mom that will throw bottles at you because you bottle feed, I will tell you why I choose to breast feed if you ask. I am 24 and most my friends are just now getting married or setted down, so that don't understand. I also get that all females want to have children.

    My question is why does it have to be woman with children and the childless? What happen to just being friends no matter what?

    It is like playing a race card. I love my kid and will always brag about him and not be sorry about it. My fb is filled with pictures of my son, if you don't want to look don't. (I do have friends that can't wait for new pictures)

    Those are my thoughts.....

    I understand friends without child not wanting to do the b/day parties, etc.

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  • HotCrossBuns's Avatar
    Posted by HotCrossBuns Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:04pm PDT

    OPINIONLY: whenever I had to nurse any of my babies in mixed company, I would excuse myself to a private room to get the baby latched on, and then if I was comfortable with the crowd, and vice versa, I would come and sit with them with a blanket draped over me and baby. I found it more relaxing to be alone, anyway, so I didn't feel like I was "hiding" out or being shunned.

    Most of my friends didn't care if I whipped the feedbags out right there, but the same way I wouldn't pull my pants down to my ankles in their living room before using their bathroom, I don't think it would have been polite to bare a booby in front of them.

    If we were in company to which I was less acquainted, I sould simply ask the person/people if they were comfortable with my sitting with them while I held the baby under cover. I never met with anyone immature enough to object.

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  • Christy's Avatar
    Posted by Christy Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:51pm PDT

    haha...nicely put.

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  • Mmgirl's Avatar
    Posted by Mmgirl Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:27am PDT

    I don't want to see my sisters breastfeed, so why would I want to see someone who isn't family do it? Sorry, but it is a breast and I wouldn't pop mine out in group of people. I agree with HotCrossBuns, you should excuse yourself to a private area and drape a blanket over your shoulder and the baby. It's a matter of being mosdest, appropriate, and polite.

    As for the article, I think it has some good tips for parents to abide by. Please don't get mad at your non-reproducing friends if they don't want to spend time in loud children areas. Sorry but Chucky Cheese is not my idea of a good time. I will go for my family birthday parties but that is it. I don't want to hear about your pregnancy or how jr was smeared in #2. YUCK! I would like my friends who are parents to remember that they had a personality before the baby came in to the picture. It is ok to let yourself be you every once in awhile. We just miss our friends and would like them to come out and play once in awhile.

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  • Christina's Avatar
    Posted by Christina Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:40am PDT

    yeah. I totally agree with you. I always hear some single parent talk about it on the dating site soloparentdate.com . I think that's a good suggesion for them.

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