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Friday, July 3, 2009

When is it OK to tattle on other parents?

A few months ago, I was in the bargain zone, going through the racks at my favorite department store when my attention was sharply diverted from the row of adorable denim swing coats in front of me. It takes a lot to get me to look up from a trendy coat on clearance, but there is something about a mom talking a little too loudly on a cell phone that can make even the most inveterate shopper snap to it.

The mom, one arm loaded with tube socks and men's khaki pants and the other flipping past swimsuit after swimsuit, had her phone wedged to her ear with her shoulder. Her attention seemed everywhere, but the conversation was clearly about prom. Or more specifically, post-prom activities at her house.

"Well, yes," she said so most of us in the women's department could hear her, "but our kids are good kids. They get good grades and don't get in trouble. They're not trouble-makers! I'm sure they will just want to come back and watch movies and crash on the floor after prom, which is so responsible of them! They're good kids!"

She sounded more like she was convincing herself than the other mom obviously on the line. She went on to explain which kids from her son's group would be there and how she wouldn't let them drive too late and how many sleeping bags and air mattresses they had in the house. She nodded and rolled her eyes and then smiled a courtesy smile as the other mom responded and I tried not to stare.

When the conversation was mercifully over, a large, loping kid carrying more pairs of khakis came over and did a "wassup?" head tilt at the cell phone mother, now completely overloaded. With clothes and irritation.

"MICHAEL!," she attempted to quietly yell, "you've got to tell me all the kids who are coming over and what they are telling their parents! You're going to get me in trouble with their parents! I don't want to keep covering for you."

I can't decide whether I hope she heard me gasp or not. But I did. And probably at the same decibel level as her previous conversation. I felt the same as I do when I pull up at a stoplight and see that the kid in the car next to me isn't strapped into a car seat or even a seatbelt. I was horrified.

She was lying? To the other parent? Then who was in charge? Was getting away with whatever was planned (and whatever was "planned") for after prom worth all that? And what in the world would you do if you were either parent in the situation?

Since it was prom and most of us probably have some bad prom behavior in our background, I can only assume the trifecta of drinking, drugging and doing are involved. And while that seemed logical to most of my friends when I was a senior, I see it a liiiiiitle more cautiously now that I'm a parent.

I thought of all this today when I read this article about when to rat out tweens or teens to their parents when you witness bad behavior. The question is interesting and the comments are certainly heated. But it makes me wonder, is it just as important to talk about when it's time to tattle on another parent?

I am not the parent of a tween or teen, but one day I will be. My son isn't going to prom anytime soon, but the dating and hair gel gods willing, one day he will be. And while I've certainly done things as a parent I swore I'd never do, like sit my kid in front of Elmo for an hour so I can be on a conference call in peace or let him wear a Cars t-shirt three days in a row, I hope I don't ever find myself acting out this gasp-able situation when my son's in his teens. I also pray that the parents of his friends know better too.

Am I being naive? Or was this prom cover-up tame or tattle-worthy?

What would you do if you found out another parent was enabling kids' post-prom partying? Would you call other parents and tell them what's going on? Or would you just make your own child sit this one out?

I guess it comes down to this: When is it OK for one parent to tattle on another?



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  • sandy's Avatar
    Posted by sandy Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:20pm PDT

    If you know the parents, you should absolutely let them know. It takes a village to raise a child. Just put yourself in their shoes. If it was your child, would you want to know?

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  • adonajeachi's Avatar
    Posted by adonajeachi Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:42pm PDT

    Well that is kind of a tricky situation: One on hand you feel its your duty to tell someone about this because it is most absurdly wrong to be letting your child control your house hold. It just shows she doesn't know what a parent consist of and how to raise her kids right. By what your telling me she was frustrated and upset. Well she's reaping what she sowing. She's gonna be reaping alot more than that if the othr parents find out shes been lying to them. Because if that was me and someone was lying to me about my kids I would most definitly try to tear her head off her shoulders. But unless you know her and know the other parents there isn't anything you can do about it. If you do know the parents I would say something. Definitly!!

    It'll all come crashing down on her like hell on fire soon enough.

    Believe that.

    But to sum it all up, that is hella scandlous. People nowadays don't understand or know the real.

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  • Nic's Avatar
    Posted by Nic Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:23pm PDT

    I'm not a parent (yet), but have a degree in child-development, and I wouldn't allow this kind of deceit to go on with my child. First, I wouldn't feel bad about accidentally "outing" a kid to his parent, and second I wouldn't cover for my kids friends. That is teaching them that it's ok to lie to me - which I'd never want! In this prom scenario, I would have told my kid "Billy can't come unless he is honest with his parents about his plans and I've spoken with them". If I'm going to host children at my house, I don't see why I wouldn't speak with most, if not all, of their parents. It does take a village, but most people are too damn selfish.

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  • JustanotherJennifer's Avatar
    Posted by JustanotherJennifer Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:11pm PDT

    As a mother that has gone through the teenage stage once and 2 more times on the horizon I am gasping with you. You have to trust your kids friend's parents. My rule is I will never lie to a kid's parent if I am asked directly. It does take a village and I think you just met the village idiot.

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  • Superlativity's Avatar
    Posted by Superlativity Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:11pm PDT

    My daughter will NEVER be sleeping over anyone's house, we'll do all the sleepovers at my house, and this, among many others, is the reason why. I would tell the other parents, but it's also about being involved enough in your kids' lives to know who their friends are and to have met the friends' parents as well. If my mom didn't feel my friends had responsible parents, I wasn't allowed to go over their houses, and I never slept over my friends' houses until I was 18. I didn't understand it then, but I certainly do now as a parent myself, and I turned out just fine.

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  • bookfrog3's Avatar
    Posted by bookfrog3 Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:16pm PDT

    Frankly my mother was the biggest busybody in the world when it came to my social activities. If I told her I was going to a “sleepover” or party at a friends house she would call their parents and ask to chaperone. (Once the parents didn’t know about the party.) She was a teacher at my high school and I really couldn’t get away with much. She happily notified other parents of unsupervised parties that I tried to go to.

    I remember one time one of my friend’s mothers called her and was asking what to do about her daughter; she was leaving late, spending far too much time at her boyfriends and her mom thought she might be doing drugs. My mother told her to search my friend’s room and if she found anything to take her car from as punishment – then she couldn’t leave. (They lived in the country).

    Her mother expressed concern that this might violate her daughters privacy and said “I can’t take her car – its her car” Mom said, “who paid for the car?” My friends mom replied “Well I did – but I bought it for her” My mother said “The house is yours – you have every right to search it. If the car is in your name – you can take it, she may not like it; but sometimes what is best for them is not going to make them happy.”

    Parents who allow their kids to have to much “freedom” can truly endanger them. Unlike my friend, I left high school pretty much unsullied by some of the VERY scary things kids get into. I still faced those challenges – but I was older, had a more mature perspective, and dealt with it a lot better.

    By all means be a busybody – tell on bad parents, tell on bad kids and never, ever let your child manipulate you into allowing foolish behaviors because you are trying to make them like you.

    I hated my mom for being so nosy and informed but now as a twenty something godparent who is looking at having one of her own soon – I have to say, mom couldn’t have done a better job.

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  • gallegosrose@...'s Avatar
    Posted by gallegosrose@... Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:22pm PDT

    I'm a parent of two adult children my girl has 4 teenages of her own and she just found out her only girl has been having unprotected sex and I just need for someone to tell me what I should do oh by the way I was the one that had to tell her about daughter

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    Posted by gallegosrose@... Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:22pm PDT

    I'm a parent of two adult children my girl has 4 teenages of her own and she just found out her only girl has been having unprotected sex and I just need for someone to tell me what I should do oh by the way I was the one that had to tell her about daughter

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  • Charlene T's Avatar
    Posted by Charlene T Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:39pm PDT

    I don't know what to recommend as far as tattling on this mother in question, but I do know that my house is usually the one the teenagers come to 'cause I can supervise what's going on. I've heard too many stories about what the "good kids" are doing. Our "G" rated house is still fun to hang out at, (at least if I have food and sodas in the fridge) and video games for them to play. As far as the privacy issue goes, they are still children and they are not entitled to complete privacy until they are grown and out of the house. It's time we took back control of our teenagers. Oh, and by the way, all of my daughter's friends love me and call me mom, even though I'm very strict with my daughter. Let's not be afraid to say no.

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  • Beth's Avatar
    Posted by Beth Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:05pm PDT

    Put yourself in their shoes--you'd surely want to know, right? Raising kids properly is way more important than worrying what other parents think of you.

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