I declined, saying, "If you guess wrong, and too high, my self-esteem could be, like, permanently ruined."
He replied, "Oh, come on. There's nothing wrong with you. You have a perfectly fantastic athletic body."
Athletic!?!? He consciously chose NOT to say thin. Instead, he said athletic. Which means muscular. Which means thick. Which is as good as saying fat! Which brings me to my first point ...
1. I always want a guy to tell me I look skinny.
Now, yes, I know I sound like a real anti-feminist, saying this. But it pleases me to no end when people — male and female — say things like, "My god, you're tiny!" Or, "Wow, what are you these days, a size two?" I know societal pressures have done some bad things to my body image (and to our collective body image); I won't deny that. But I do love to feel petite.
2. I always want to hear I look shockingly young.
New Friend just made things worse after the "athletic body" debacle by trying to guess my age — and he got it right on the nose. Fishing for a compliment, I said, "Ah, too bad, I actually look as old as I am, huh?" He replied, "You're incredibly well-preserved for someone your age." Oh, dear. Well-preserved?! I felt like a canned sardine. Couldn't he — just to be nice — have told me I looked like I'd just gotten back from shopping for my prom dress? Couldn't he have told me my skin looked as soft and smooth as a a baby's bottom? Couldn't he, at the very least, have said, "Wow, you must be getting Botox, because you look terrific!"?
3. I also don't mind it when guys say, "Now you — you I'd sleep with!"
Luckily, New Friend turned things around a few minutes later. He was describing some woman in his office who drove him nuts because she thought she was the cat's meow; she'd dissed one of New Friend's male coworkers who'd asked her out. "And this woman, she's empirically attractive, I guess," New Friend said. "But she totally lacks charisma! I'd never sleep with her — and I can't imagine too many men who would." Then, gratuitously, he turned to me, and almost out of the corner of his mouth, he said, "But you? You I'd sleep with in a second. You've got the je ne c'est quoi."
Now, sure, it's a little embarrassing, a little crude, when a guy says something like this. But I like to think it's also his awkward, dorky way of flirting. Of trying to say, as directly as he can without downright asking for it, that he thinks you're hot. Call me crazy, but I find it kind of endearing.
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:29pm PDT
Report AbuseGet over yourself. Cant you just be proud of who you are and how you look. People portray people totally diffrent when they have confidence. Confidence can make a woman stand out among anyone. Just be you and be proud...you dont need to hear it from a man!
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:30pm PDT
Report AbuseMaura - you should drop the A and put an ON at the end of your name.
You bloggers really need to STOP bringing up feminism - in ANY way shape or form - when it's obvious you don't know jack about it.
If you think athletic means fat, and your day is just *RUINED!* if you aren't told how thin, young, and screwable you look, that's YOUR personal hang up. It's YOURS to own up to. So stop hiding your dysfunctional and disordered body issues behind the big bad feminists.
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:30pm PDT
Report AbuseUgh... You're giving advice on how to get a guy laid, not advice applicable to any kind of relationship. I would be offended if my SO told me ANYTHING but the God's Honest Truth. I WANT (scratch that) NEED him to tell me his honest opinion. If he doesn't, what's the point? It's nice to be complemented, but if it's a hollow complement (the kind you're talking about) I'd rather do without. Can't anyone take anything anymore with a grain of salt and a nice "Thank you."? Your self-esteem shouldn't be determined by the way your guy "stretches the truth"; self-esteem comes from... wait for it... yourSELF. You're way too sensitive, and this was a very disappointing read. End of Rant.
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:46pm PDT
Report AbuseUm, *what*? Athletic =/= fat. It means to me that I look capable. That I look like I can hold my own and get things done. I get none of those conotations from "tiny" or "petite" or looking like a size two. (And I'm not saying those things are mutually exclusive, because I've known some damn tough smaller gals.)
There's a big difference between "lik[ing] to feel petite" and insisting people exclaim they lost you for a minute when you turned sideways in order for you to feel that way. GTFOY.
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:49pm PDT
Report AbuseSo you're encouraging men to lie, just so you'll feel better about yourself?
Even when he complimented you, you found something wrong with it.
Try some therapy.. that might do you some good.
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:27pm PDT
Report AbuseI second that...actually I second ALL of the above!! ----BTW "Athletic" is a GREAT thing, I know many people who strive everyday to become athletic. (I'm a female Personal Trainer )
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:37pm PDT
Report Abuser u Fn serious?? athletic means fat?? wow you need help. i can only wish that more young girls/women would strive to be athletic/healthy then skinny.
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:42pm PDT
Report Abusenot sure why I bother reading ANYTHING on this site anymore, In fact, this article pushed me over the edge, I'm done with Shine.
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:46pm PDT
Report Abusehow in the world did you come to the conclusion that athletic = fat? i know many, many athletic ladies, and not a single one of them is even near thick or fat.
but other than that, i totally agree with you on the part where we want to be called small/thin. and your friend's "well-preserved" made me laugh! what an interesting word choice.
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Posted by Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:06pm PDT
Report AbuseGosh what some women like to hear men say, and we wonder why men cant be honest with the legit ladies out here???.. Well hey atleast you are so bold to tell everyone how shallow you are... haha.....
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