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Wednesday, November 25, 2009

Can Cheating Ever Help Your Relationship?

Pastor Ed Young belives that if you want to have an affair, you certainly should... with your own spouse.

"Primarily, [sex is] for pleasure. Secondarily, it's for procreation. And when you have a man and a woman making love, then you're going to hit on all cylinders. And when you don't, when you step out of that relationship, the result is going to be chaos." Read: Spiritual Sex: 10 Erotic Commandments

Jenny Block, who's in an open relationship, has a completely different perspective on the whole matter. Read more from Jenny Block here.

"[My husband] wasn't so upset with my having sex with someone else, but was very upset with my lying about it. And so for me, I feel like relationships, marriage, the whole shebang is, number one, about honesty. Sex, yeah, it's a great part of a relationship. But I'm not convinced it's the cornerstone of a marriage or of any relationship." 

Debating the topic with each other on Nightline last week, Young and Block were joined by two other panelists who each brought their own unique experiences to the discussion.

Falling firmly on Block's side (that sex outside of marriage can be fine), was Noel Biderman, founder of the website AshleyMadison.com, who's motto is: "Life is short. Have an affair."

"What I hear all the time is, 'Why cheat if it's not working for you, just leave.' That's the selfish act, walking away from your family to pursue your own sexual needs, that's a sexual act. And so what I hear from my members all the time is they're in sexless relationships. They've tried talking about it. And so rather than leave, they would rather do this." Read: What Kind of Guys Look For Affairs Online

The final panelist was Jonathan Dougherty, a former sex addict, who aligned himself with Pastor Ed Young.

"Before AshleyMadison.com was around, I was using the internet to try and find [and] set up anonymous sexual encounters. And that just started to crumble not only my own integrity, [but] it crumbled any sort of communication and trust that was in our marriage. Obviously, I'm going to come at it from the standpoint that God is the inventor of marriage. He's the inventor of sex, so he get's the prerogative to determine what the terms are. And his definition was one man and one woman for life."  

In short: four perspectives on cheating were supposedly presented on the Nightline debate, but only two really materialized. The first: God doesn't like cheating. And the second: cheating is fine (maybe even good) for a marriage. Read: How an Affair Saved My Marriage


Honestly, the whole thing left us a little baffled. After all, aren't there about a million more perspectives in infidelity that aren't based on rationalizions ("there are worse things I could be doing than cheating") and fear of damnation ("God will be so mad if I sleep with that man who's not my husband").

For example, there are plenty of people who think cheating is awful, but don't believe in God. There are plenty of people who believe that it's a lot kinder to keep the occasional tryst secret than to disclose the full gory details of said trysts in an attempt to be "honest." There are those who cheat not because they think "it's better than leaving my family" or "I'm in a sexless marriage" but because it's fun. There are those who have never cheated and never will, but don't give a damn what other people do in their own marriages. And, of course, there are many, many perspectives we can't even begin to fathom. Why?Because every relationship is different.

It's not that we don't appreciate Nightline's attempts to explore topics concerning modern love and relationships. We believe that some of the most important parts of life hinge on precisely those topics. But we also believe there's a lot more to how we live now than God and excuses—whether it's in our bedrooms or on late-night TV.

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  • Karrie H's Avatar
    Posted by Karrie H Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:57pm PDT

    My husband took for granted what he had, and i cheated on him. It hurt him so bad, i will never do it again but i can honestly say it made us stronger. Now he realizes he never wants to be without me so he takes more time for us! I dont recommend it but it worked for us.

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  • Ahleah G's Avatar
    Posted by Ahleah G Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:32pm PDT

    Open relationships are not the same as cheating. So Block's perspective does not align with "cheating is fine". Open relationships allow outside sexual partners, but they are based in honest communication. Cheating is by nature a betrayal, seeing someone outside the relationship without the knowledge or consent of your partner. While I can see the perspective of people in sexless marriages who seek sex elsewhere, that is not the same thing as a healthy open relationship. It could be if their spouse gave them permission to seek sex elsewhere because they were not interested in providing it.

    I think some people are happiest being monogamous, but relationships are not one-kind-fits all. Open relationships work for some people and are equally valid if they are rooted in trust and honesty.

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  • yaya's Avatar
    Posted by yaya Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:44pm PDT

    If you TRULY love your husband why would you want to sleep with someone else?

    Same thing for men, if you TRULY love your wife, why would you sleep with someone else? The answer: you wouldn't.

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  • R.I.L.'s Avatar
    Posted by R.I.L. Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:02pm PDT

    I have cheated and been cheated on, so I`ve seen both sides of the coin. Now that I`m grown and more wise, I wouldn`t dare hurt my girl like that. You never truly know just how much you hurt the person you cheated on. If you love someone, why put what you have at risk just for a moment of pleasure. Those few moments can cause a lifetime of turmoil for the person that gets betrayed. That`s why I say,"It`s easier to betray than it is to stay loyal." Question is, how strong are you?

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  • Zom-B's Avatar
    Posted by Zom-B Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:36pm PDT

    Jenny Block and Noel Biderman are a couple of shallow, selfish, stupid, immature, pseudointellecutal wh*res with little regard for the feelings of others. These are what we call "sociopaths". Why else have the nerve to CRITCIZE someone you may be hurting when you sleeping around? How mean-spirited and selfish and inhuman can you be? And I don't care if the other person acts ok with it....I can guarantee you many of them are NOT.

    And the "arguments" these weak, spineless pr*cks assert make zero sense.

    It's "selfish", they say, to end a relationship because you're unhappy with it...much better solution to stay in it and screw someone else.

    For one thing, (and I can't believe I'm saying this) but there's a lot more to it than sex, dumb@sses.

    And, also...

    Oh, forget it....why am I even trying???

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  • DawnG's Avatar
    Posted by DawnG Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:51pm PDT

    My husband and i have been together for 10 and 1/2 years. For the last 5 he's been verbally and mentally abusive. We have a 7 year old daughter together and i wanted to try and make things work for her because i grew up in a broken home. About 5 months ago i cheated on my husband. I didn't plan it, but it happened. When he asked me about it, I admitted it and it opened his eyes. He now realizes what he was doing to me and our marriage with his words and actions. He has changed so much in the last couple of months. I don't condone cheating or recommend it for everyone but it worked for me and has made my marriage alot stronger and healthier.

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  • becca's Avatar
    Posted by becca Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:11pm PDT

    I see sex as something you do with someone you love. Not just any random sleazy person. What's the point of commiting to someone just to sleep around. Honestly, it hurts a lot more to be a child with parents who are cheating on each other than when they seperate. I've been there. And I've cheated and been cheated on, just kisses but I still consider that cheating. It sucks, and I don't honestly feel that it ever made things better, only worse.

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  • SILENT KNIGHT's Avatar
    Posted by SILENT KNIGHT Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:15pm PDT

    Yes it can. It's a definite sign to move on or stay and become a full time, part time, social or blue moon swinger.

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  • BlueEyes's Avatar
    Posted by BlueEyes Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:54pm PDT

    cheating is not the answer...I had an affair for almost 8 yrs, we both were married, now we both r divorced, and we r not together..I'm still trying to get over the heartache it caused me....find a hobby, or get out of ur marriage first if ur not happy. It's not worth it. I thought this guy really loved me too. It's been 2 yrs since we broke up and I still love him. He has never come back to me. I'm trying to move on with my life, but because of this relationship, I don't think I will ever have another relationship for the rest of my life. That's how much I've been hurt by this. ...I regret it. It was one if not the biggest mistake I've ever made in my life.

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  • Rowena's Avatar
    Posted by Rowena Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:01am PDT

    cheating is for lost souls who have no idea where they belong or where life will take them. or maybe they're just stupid.

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