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Friday, December 11, 2009

Can I please get some help?

I didn't want to make this post but it's something that's been really irritating me lately. I've seen a large number of posts by women here talking about how they hate when guys play games with them. I've read post after post about how unfair women feel it is and how hard it is for them to find a guy who won't just try to manipulate them. I even read a blog about the technique of negging and another about a woman's issues with date doctors. 
HOWEVER, I don't understand why people seem to ignore the fact that women have their own date doctors and have had their books detailing male psychology for years. Years longer than men have had their formal teachers. There's an advertisement on this very site for crying out loud linking to one of these women detailing "the secret psychology that makes him fall in love and keeps him hooked for the long term."

http://www.havetherelationshipyouwant.com/index.asp?s=18872&default=1&spid=VGIZZZ&spids=VGIZZZ,0&spoptid=0

Now, this sounds a lot like the terminology that the dating doctors use quite regularly and sounds like what was once known as a man trap to me. 
As some of you may know, I was raised by two women. I've been raised to believe in chivalry and honor from a young age. I was taught to respect women and value them as equals. I've counseled numerous women and I'm well aware of the heartbreak that women can suffer and I'm sympathetic to it. I know this is a difficult game. This is why I have no problem with either side stacking the deck in their favor and learning about the other side. I do, however, have a problem with double standards. People are entitled to their opinions, but what is with the hypocrisy?  Women, why is it that you criticize men for something and then ignore it when your own gender does the EXACT SAME THING?! If you have a problem with men learning dating techniques and psychology, how is this any less deplorable? Why is this particular aspect not condemned as well? How is this any different?
All I'm saying here, is that if you're willing to call out men for a behavior shouldn't you be willing to do the same thing for your own?

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  • Haley's Avatar
    Posted by Haley Wed May 6, 2009 6:45pm PDT

    Well, I actually agree with you.

    I have to admit, i do the same thing. But i think that girls just critisize guys because they take it in a wrong way. They think that guys just dont understand or are having problems with them. I dont really know why women take it that way. Because i know how girls are, of course; because i am one, but what i never understood was how girls can take things the wrong way, or they judge quicker than guys. I find myself doing it sometimes....Guess its just how us females are...

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  • larissa's Avatar
    Posted by larissa Wed May 6, 2009 9:04pm PDT

    well im not totaly with you on that because i think some guy's just like to toy with girl's emotion's i mean a girl want's someone who can treat them the way they deserve treated

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  • loveyabunchezz's Avatar
    Posted by loveyabunchezz Thu May 7, 2009 5:24am PDT

    i admit girls do do that too! but i think girls dont take it as far as guys do! we do it to seem unavailable or smarter than a guy! but guys take it as far as they can until the girl gives up on him or just moves on! we all have our issues but when it comes to this i think guys have the most trouble with it!!!!

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  • maria's Avatar
    Posted by maria Thu May 7, 2009 3:17pm PDT

    the same thing can be said for men.

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  • 's Avatar
    Posted by Thu May 7, 2009 9:07pm PDT

    You know, both sides do the same thing. There are players, shy ones, bold ones, straight ones, and whatever...

    I don't criticize. I like to read the articles about 'what to look for' or 'not look for' or 'how to catch his/her eye and keep it' articles, but I find them entertaining.

    Back in high school, I actually thought it was all true. Read it and believed it. Now, I KNOW what I want from a relationship. And what lines I will bend and what lines I will NOT cross. And with that knowledge, some of the relationship stress faded.

    But, then, I'm also not in that attitude that I HAVE to have someone with me to be happy. I can wait, not worry about games, spend time with my friends and family just having fun, and keep an eye out and have fun with the guys till I find something worthy of my risk. All without playing games. LOL!

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  • Dracora007's Avatar
    Posted by Dracora007 Wed May 13, 2009 9:40am PDT

    "I didn't want to make this post but it's something that's been really irritating me lately. I've seen a large number of posts by women here talking about how they hate when guys play games with them"

    Some women love those chaotic relationships. They say they don't want it but some do enjoy it more than they know.

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