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Wednesday, December 16, 2009

Five Unexpected Signs He’s Not a Good Guy

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Sometimes the guys who seem the most chivalrous are the guys to look out for…

My friend Alexandra just had the most awful experience. She went out with a guy who seemed like the most thoughtful, polite guy in the world, but ended up being basically the biggest misogynist she’s ever met. She said he was one degree removed from being the Preppy Murderer. We went out for dinner the other night and talked and came up with a series of signs that might indicate you’re in for a bait-and-switch like this.

1) He won’t let you open any door — car, restaurant, your own apartment — but you get the sense he’s not completely listening to you. Opening doors can either be polite, or it can be a power play. Keep your eye out. 

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2) He’s the kind of guy who calls your father “sir,” but isn't the kind of guy who might actually want to know anything about your father. Unless he’s in the military, calling someone sir is suspect enough. But if he’s the kind of guy who does it without having that underlying, genuine sense of respect it’s a sign you’re dealing with a class-A manipulator.\

3) He likes the show ‘Mad Men’ a little too much. For lots of men I know, it’s a lifestyle set-piece about a world where women should be seen and not heard.

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4) He refers to you, either while speaking to you or someone else, as “miss.” The guy my friend went out with said to the waitress at dinner, “Miss Alex here will have the pan-seared halibut.”

5) He orders your pan-seared halibut for you, and he doesn’t make a joke about the fact that he's ordering your dinner; sure, this one can go either way, but again it's what's behind it. If it feels less like someone’s trying to do something nice for you than that someone’s trying to put you in your place... well, that's not good.

Do you know this type of guy? Mr. Light Your Cigarette? Have you ever met him? Is there such a thing as too chivalrous?

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  • SB's Avatar
    Posted by SB Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:44pm PDT

    Thank you LindsyS 12 for being a voice of reason. Some people can't read then get upset over nothing. He's just saying keep an eye out, not don't date guys because they're chivalrous. Yeesh!

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  • Marc's Avatar
    Posted by Marc Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:46pm PDT

    I've been reading this post for quite some time now and this is the most pathetic read I've come across... Opening doors = bad, calling her Dad Sir - what next? "Girls, you better watch out for the guy who will treat you with respect, honor your integrety, find you interesting, and listen to what you have to say cuz he just won't be right for you." Jake, take a hike man!

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  • boo's Avatar
    Posted by boo Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:51pm PDT

    oh yeah, and i have met 'that guy', mr. lightyourcigarett

    and he was very polite, and he held doors, and he called my father sir and he ordered for me- because he wanted to control.

    Because... he had severe PTSD that had progressed into compulsive lying, egotism, and paranoia.

    I learned my lesson, i really don't think everyone should have to though- keep your eyes and minds open

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  • ladybella04's Avatar
    Posted by ladybella04 Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:51pm PDT

    I think it's really hard to point to any one thing that somebody does as a warning sign. I would think it's probably a constellation of behaviors and not just one or two things that would be reason for concern. Also, if someone makes you uncomfortable, even if you don't know why, that's a clear heads up to be cautious. I've found with the handful of people who were abusive to me, whether it was physically, verbally, mentally or emotionally, leading up to the abuse, it was never what they did that foreshadowed it, it was how they did it. In other words, even if it seemed small and like I shouldn't be upset, they made me feel scared, uncomfortable or threatened in some way. On the other hand, unfortunately, some people are really good at hiding who they are.

    Most of the expert opinions I've read mentioned other issues as well, like problems with drugs and alcohol, pushing for a commitment or sex too soon, being controlling over things like what you wear or where you are going, being abusive to animals, being possessive, etc.

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  • MrsKlingonPasadena's Avatar
    Posted by MrsKlingonPasadena Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:58pm PDT

    Since we don't agree with the article, now we can't or don't read? 4 real?

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  • opiniononly's Avatar
    Posted by opiniononly Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:08pm PDT

    I'd love to know the guy's impression of the woman. No wonder guys think they can't win no matter what they do. Now it's a problem to be polite.

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  • KWENASETSOFirst Name's Avatar
    Posted by KWENASETSOFirst Name Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:23pm PDT

    for many African youngmen,all those kind of behaviours are a form of respect and showing that they care. i call all my lady colleagues Mam, and only gentlemen are addressed as sir and since i love my woman and respect her parents for giving me the most wonderful gift, i salute her father.by the way i let her order dinner for herself but i open all doors for her except at her apartment.

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  • hairtoday's Avatar
    Posted by hairtoday Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:25pm PDT

    You must not be from the South. I wouldn't even go on a second date with a guy if he didn't open the door for me. I say yes ma'am and no sir because I was raised that way and, now that I'm grown, it comes as second nature. You are taking polite little gestures to the extreme and being unnecessarily paranoid. Married Jake GET. A .GRIP!

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  • Holly's Avatar
    Posted by Holly Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:30pm PDT

    I like it when my husband does those things for me. He's a polite, southern gentalman and maybe your friend missed out on getting to know a very good man?

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  • Garly's Avatar
    Posted by Garly Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:33pm PDT

    I agree w/the message behind the 5 points. Being polite is acceptable, but she is talking about a control freak. Better safe than sorry. Whynot consider what she is saying. If your date is not 'wierd' that will be proven out in time.

    In my experience, once a neighbor man had parked his vehicle(still running) outside my backyard fence. It was dusk. I was inside the house & could hear the engine running loudly. Then I began to hear something that sounded like a nailed board being pulled from a wooden fence. I went out to check (with husband in tow) and being the nice guy he is, husband askes (from a distance) if everything is okay. The neighbor says "No SIR, I was just fixing my car, sorry SIR to bother you". The vehicle had the hood raised and the guy had a HAMMER in his hand. Now most women know a guy is not usually going to use a HAMMER under the hood unless he's REALLY ANGRY! lol Well, the man was probably 10 yrs older than my husband (so much for the 'respect' your elders consideration), and after he drove off a couple minutes later, I checked the fence. The board was pulled almost entirely away from the fence. I brought this up to my husband. Being the nice guy that he is, he said what all the rest of you have said. My disbelief in the neighbor's statement was based more on his usage of the word SIR than on the condition of the fence. Very telling. You be the judge. In my opinion, the neighbor was creating an opening in my fence to come into my yard at night & peer thru my windows.

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