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Wednesday, February 10, 2010

How Do You Know If You Were Ever Really in Love?


Dear Em & Lo,

Four months ago my girlfriend of three years ended our relationship. She gave me generic reasons: "It's not you, it's me; we're too young for such a serious relationship; we have a lot to experience." Finally this week I got her to drop her guard and open up to me. Her reasons were valid and I had no problem with them. We did have a communication problem, we swept big issues under the rug only so we wouldn't argue, etc. I noticed she used words like "cared,""liked a lot," and would only occasionally use "love" when she referred to me. So I asked her, "Were you ever actually IN love with me?" I'm paraphrasing her response but it went something like this: "People throw around 'I love you' all the time -- and that's okay because I'm sure they do -- but my ideas have changed so much on love.  I just think that when you tell someone you're with that you love them, then you should want to marry them.  Obviously you and I never got married or even came near it, so it would be unfair to say that I was IN love with you." Besides now thinking that the past three years were a complete waste of time and being crushed, I now question what I believe. I know that I was deeply in love with her and I would have bet my life on it that she was too. I don't know what love is anymore. What's your definition of love?

-- Heart in a Blender

Dear HiaB,

Let's get one thing straight right off the bat: Your ex-girlfriend -- let's call her Jerkface -- is an evil shrew who has a piece of coal where her heart should be and who definitely doesn't deserve someone as nice, sensitive, and extremely good-looking as you obviously are.

There now. Feel a little better? Good.

We think Jerkface's philosophy of love is flawed: Just because you are no longer together doesn't mean what you had when you were together wasn't genuine or real. Plenty of couples are "in love" at some point but don't end up married, for any number of reasons: too young, different career paths, one wants kids and the other doesn't, religious differences, 3,000 miles between them, mistakes made that are unforgiven, a disdain for the "institution" of marriage, differing libidos, communication problems, extenuating circumstances, the list goes on. Ever seen Once? Or even The Breakup? There you go.

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Even if Jerkface truly feels this way, believes it with all her coal, it just seems mean-spirited to be so brutally honest -- especially when it's clear you were in love with her. This is one of those rare instances in relationships (or ex-relationships) where we would condone a little white lying just to spare the person's feelings (akin to the automatic "no" answer to "Do these pants make my butt look big?").

The only reason we could see her dropping such a bomb on you is because she wanted to finally get you to drop it. And she would have a point: After four months, why are you still pushing her to open up about your past relationship, especially when she seems to have definitively moved on? No good can come of this -- as you've learned the hard way. If you've been clinging to some hope of reconciliation, despite signals to the contrary from her, then maybe she feared that admitting to once being in love with you (whether it's the truth or a kind white lie) would give you more false hope. Perhaps she was a bit harsh so you'd finally get the point, let go, and move on too.

And you should move on, but not by losing your faith in love. You say that you know you were deeply in love, and that's all that matters. You do know what love is. Even though Jerkface has worked hard to taint the memory of what you had, don't let her! Cherish the good times you had together, and try to learn from the mistakes you both made in the relationship. So that when you do fall in love again -- and you will -- it'll be with someone who won't be such a Jerkface if you -- and you might -- breakup.

All our love,
Em & Lo

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  • Christina's Avatar
    Posted by Christina Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:32pm PST

    "How Do You Know If You Were Ever Really in Love?"

    Two years after your divorce (and after you have already remarried and feel completely happy for the first time in a very long time) you find out he just remarried because his current girlfriend is two months pregnant.

    One of the last things he had said to you, after being with you for 9 years, is "I'm going to go out and find a girl to give me the one thing you never would (baby)".

    You spend the next three days crying while your bestfriend and new husband comfort you. The pain is intense and simply horrifying.

    The moral: If years later, their actions still have an effect on you, then once upon a time, you really loved the f*ckwad.

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  • Appletini's Avatar
    Posted by Appletini Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:49pm PST

    You know.. when we are little the words "I love you" are so easy to say to everyone. Parents, friends, pets ect. We shout "I love you" at the top of our lungs and most people say it back with ease.

    When we grow up they become loaded words such as "commitment", "relationship", and "exclusive."

    They have to mean something and if we say it to someone they MUST say it back, otherwise we are not "in love'.

    I have "loved" many guys at different times in my life. Most of them didn't love me back or gave me a reason they wanted something real. I have had deep feelings with certain people who didn't feel the same way about me. We are allowed to love people who don't love us back.

    the real thing, is the one that reciprocates and stays.

    Yes, I feel fked over. Especially when I can't figure out why certain people bailed on a potentially good thing. Perhaps they thought it wasn't worth the effort, or perhaps it really wasn't meant to be.

    However, if you believe that somebody out there is just as fked over as you, and wants to have a relationship where mutual I love yous are said, it isn't such a big deal. cuz you know it, and feel it, and there will be no doubt.

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  • another hockey fan's Avatar
    Posted by another hockey fan Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:50pm PST

    People are always going to get their feelings hurt no matter what is or isn't said when a long term relationship ends. I don't really see anything wrong with what this young lady said. She probably was trying to do the best she could and emotionally she had already left the relationship. It's not easy to say the "right or correct" things when you are trying to let someone go. At least she tried.

    Bottom line is don't feel like you wasted three years of your life with this gal. It will take some time as your heart is still healing, but learn from the experience, embrace the good memories and move on with a clear head (ie free from any emotions tied to this gal) and keep a loving heart open for your next potential love.

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  • Katie B's Avatar
    Posted by Katie B Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:07pm PST

    Personally, love to me is more than a 'feeling'... more than emotion, more than sexual attraction... To me love is a verb... it's not just something that you are in but something that you do... To me I know I am in love because I will take care of my husband at his lowest points. I cry when he cries. I hurt when he is hurt. Happy when he is happy... and I will do whatever is necessary to make sure he is always happy..

    and I know he loves me because he does the same for me.

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  • Sophia Marie's Avatar
    Posted by Sophia Marie Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:17pm PST

    HiaB, Is your job really to give people advice. Who really has the right to say what the true definition of love is. To me, love is saying that this is someone I could marry. Everyone has a right to their own definition. And yes it is possible that during this relationship she actually believed she was in love but once she ended it she obviously discovered that her feelings weren't as deep. And its mean to be brutally honest wtf? my dog could give better advice. You should never hold back what you truly feel and she was right in being honest. I do not believe in white lies. A lie is a lie. If jeans make my butt look big by god I want to know. If I look like a pregnant hippo by god I want to know. Even children know lying is wrong.

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  • Sophia Marie's Avatar
    Posted by Sophia Marie Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:20pm PST

    correction that was meant for em and lo and not hiab.

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  • Heather's Avatar
    Posted by Heather Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:20pm PST

    C...I love your last statement! :)

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  • AshleeT's Avatar
    Posted by AshleeT Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:50pm PST

    I think love is a hard thing to define, but I do agree that just b/c she didn't admit she was IN love with you doesn't mean that the love you felt matters any less. Maybe she is having a harder time with the breakup than she wants to admit and felt that it would be too hard to say "yes, I was IN love with you". Sometimes love doesn't conquer all and you can love someone with all that you have, but that doesn't always mean you should be together for the rest of your lives. I also agree that you should learn from this relationship, and let her go. You will be much happier in the longrun than if you continue to dwell on what could've been.

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  • Sabrina's Avatar
    Posted by Sabrina Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:07pm PST

    Love is crazy! you can't help how you feel and you can't really control it. I think when your really in love all your expectations and lists go out the door. I guess that is why its funny because so many times we have all these dreams and goals in what "the one" should be like but when it comes down to it we always fall for the complete opposite of or expectations. lol!! Love happens not when our time is right but it happens when it comes.

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  • Climbing's Avatar
    Posted by Climbing Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:23pm PST

    There's no waist of time unless you learned nothing. And since we don't know everything every experience should teach us something positive.

    Is nothing wrong to expect to be loved back when you love someone, however we have controll only over our feelings and definitions.

    Many married couples aren't in love so marriage and love "don't always go like horse and carriage" anymore.

    I personally don't believe in marriage/white dress/paper work and all. So I've asked many women 'what marriage is to you' the two most common answers have been: Marriage is business, Marriage is sharing, That's what you do when you become adult; so you fullfil the duty of life.

    SHE PROBABLY HAD A TIMELINE. WAITED FOR YOU TO POP THE FAMOUS QUESTION YOU WEREN'T AWAERE OF IT CAUSE YOU THOUGHT LOVING HER WAS ENOUGH. SO SHE DIDN'T HEAR WHAT SHE WANTED AND LEFT.

    To me sounds as simple as that from your paraphrasing of her words.

    Life is beautiful when we don't get stuck on the past.

    See the cup 1/2 full and stand for what you feel and believe.

    Good luck

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