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Saturday, November 28, 2009

How to Tell if Someone is Lying About Their Weight on Online Dating Sites

If you’ve ever been on an online date, you know that something about your first date is going to surprise you. They’re bound to be taller than you imagined them, or balder, or have a lisp, or be much … bigger ... than their pictures suggested. This last in particular is a common complaint, and the refrain in online dating horror stories is more often than not, “She/he must’ve been a hundred pounds heavier than I expected!”

When you first consider it, it just seems weird that people would misrepresent themselves online to people who they’re planning to meet in person. (Do they think you’re not going to notice that you’re very different from your pictures?) But there are actually several factors at play. First, the internet can be a nasty place, and people already feel very vulnerable on dating sites. No one wants to be ignored and rejected, so it can be tempting to put your best foot forward and leave the rest of your body out of it. Second, some people have extremely skewed body images. A girl who’s recently gained a lot of weight might still see herself as a skinny college chick, or a guy who’s packed on football season pounds might not bother to mention it because he knows he always loses it after the playoffs. Finally, online dating sites ask users to identify with vague descriptive words that have different meanings to different people. One guy’s “curvy” may be another guy’s “few extra pounds,” and “Athletic” is a fair characterization of both a stick-skinny long-distance runner and a hulking competitive bodybuilder. Those descriptions ask people to describe themselves as they think other people see them … and this isn’t always an easy task.

There are definitely people online who misrepresent themselves intentionally, but there are also lots of people who give you the wrong impression without even realizing they’re doing it. A term even exists to identify the phenomenon: Secret Internet Fatties (or SIFs) are one of the most oft-mentioned dangers of using popular dating sites. The title’s not nice, but it indicates the widespread nature of the internet honesty problem.

For all of the reasons listed above, online dating can require a lot of detective work. The most direct approach would be to ask your date straight up questions about their weight or request that they send you a full body shot, but this seems too forward or rude to many online daters. Instead, use these subtle tactics to get a clearer picture of what your online paramour looks like before you meet.

IDENTITY RED FLAGS

Sometimes, you can clue in to whether or not someone is intentionally deceiving you by gathering clues from their profile. Look out for the following:

  • Trick Photography: Profiles that are full of Myspace angles (extreme angles taken from above, looking down) should raise the alarms. So should Fish Face (kissyfaced shots designed to create the illusion of hollower cheekbones.) Heavily, annoyingly Photoshopped pictures that disguise the person's natural appearance also fall under this category.
  • Lack of full body shot: If your date has a profile with ten pictures and none of them are body shots (or their body shots appear to be from their high school prom), they may be misleading you. Body shots that crop out half of the body – making it impossible to see how wide said body is – are also bad news, as are close-ups. Girls who are carrying a few extra pounds sometimes show off the “assets” the extra weight gives them, but fail to post pics of their entire body, allowing you to imagine that those huge boobs come with a teeny tiny waist ... just like in porn!
  • Tendency to exaggerate or gloss over important facts: If you notice that your date embellishes certain facts or you’ve caught them in outright lies before, you should expect that they’re misrepresenting their appearance to you, too.
ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS

You can gain lots of information about your date’s appearance by asking simple, fact-based questions. You can’t suss out someone’s actual size or body type from asking one question, so be careful not to jump to conclusions. But asking a series of the right questions can help you gain insight into what sort of body they have, and (perhaps even more importantly) how they view their body and treat it.

  • Ask them when their pics were taken. You can do this with subtlety and tact. Ask them at what event a certain photo was taken, and get the details surrounding it. Then ask them to remind you when that event took place. (“This is at your sister’s birthday party… last year, you said?”) If one of their pictures looks particularly dated, ask them if that picture is older than the rest. Some people post one or two really old pics because they’re flattering or because they have great memories associated with them. Asking is a quick way to figure out whether all of their snaps are from their glory days, or if there’s just one oldie-but-goodie mixed in with recent shots.
  • Ask them about the physical activities they like to do. This one comes with a big flashing warning that some fat people do exercise. Don’t assume that a girl who mentions the gym is a hardbody (or that a guy who confesses to a homoerotic relationship with Ben & Jerry is a tubbo, for that matter). You can ask specific questions about how often their soccer league trains or whether or not they think a hiking date would be fun to gauge their approach to fitness and health. You can also mention the sorts of activities you do yourself and see if they seem flabbergasted that anyone could run five miles or commit to hitting the gym twice a week.
  • Ask them what kind of clothing they like and where they shop. If a girl says she shops at The Avenue, Torrid, or Lane Bryant, she’s telling you that she’s size 14+. If she’s vague about her clothing preferences, it might be because she just doesn’t really care about fashion, or it might be that she doesn’t want to fess up to shopping at Dress Barn. (Actual store. Ugh.). But the way someone talks about the clothing they wear can tell you a lot about their personal style and body image, and this can be hugely important. (I know several guys who date primarily skinny girls, but they’re happy to expand their boundaries for a sexy, confident bigger girl who dresses to kill and takes great care of herself.)
  • Ask them about their favorite and least favorite physical features. This isn’t really a first convo question, but if you’ve already talked to someone a few times and are planning to meet, it’s not out of line to flirtatiously boast about a feature you love about yourself and ask them what their favorite feature is. This gives them a chance to flirt and preen a little bit. If you follow up by asking about their least favorite feature, they may be more inclined to be honest because you’ve given them a chance to boast before revealing a flaw. Some people will dodge this question, but others will be very frank. You can expect a lame, uninformative answer from a pretty high percentage of people, but there are also lots that will come right out and say, “I inherited my mom’s big ass” or “I’ve gained weight and I’d really like to lose it.”
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by Meghan Beresford for TechCoquette

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  • Mauna's Avatar
    Posted by Mauna Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:56am PDT

    Oh come on now, everyone who does on-line dating, is nothing, but a complete lie.....none of you guys have developed the proper skills in talking and going up to various souls directly and start a basic foundation of a beginning bud that would start a relationship of some sort....You all have developed into; the Tech Babies who are nothing more, but that of A machine....who in their right mind (if there are any souls out there) can have a relationship with TECH BABES????

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  • Frenchy's Avatar
    Posted by Frenchy Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:13am PDT

    MEN SEEM TO BE MORE VISUAL. THE FAT ISSUE IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM, THEY THEMSELVES CAN BE BALD, FAT AND BE A HEAVY SMOKER BUT THEY THINK THOSE ARE ALL OKAY....BUT A WOMAN CAN HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PERSONALITY, BE INTELLIGENT HAVE A LOVELY FACE BUT JUST BECAUSE SHES NOT THIN, THEY CANT GET PASS THAT. MY INNER BEAUTY IS WAY MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN MY PHYSICAL BODY EVER WAS, I HAVE ALWAYS HATED MEN FOR SEEING MY BEAUTIFUL THIN BODY AND NOT SEEING THE REAL ME....ITS SICKNESS TO THINK A THIN WOMEN ARE PERFECT...A WOMAN CAN HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BODY BUT SHE CAN STILL BE A TRAMP, TRASH AND NOT GOOD...EVIL WOMEN CAN BE VERY ATTRACTIVE TOO. MEN THAT SET THESE STANDARDS FOR A WOMAN, MISS OUT ON DISCOVERING TRUE BEAUTIES. WHEN YOU LOVE SOMEONE, YOU LOVE THEM FOR WHO THEY ARE NOT WHAT A BODY THEY HAVE, OR HOW MUCH MONEY THEY HAVE OR THE CAR THEY DRIVE.......IF YOU DO......YOU ARE SELFISH, SHALLOW AND YOU DESERVE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU. MEN TEND TO BE SHALLOW HALS....ITS SAD AND THEY NEED TO LOOK INTO THE MIRROR, WOULD YOU WANT WHAT YOU YOURSELF SEE IN THE MIRROR....GET REAL!

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  • None's Avatar
    Posted by None Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:32am PDT

    Wow, this is so geared towards physical beauty, if you are online searching, that means you are pretty desperate and are looking for much more than a fling, it's more serious, physical traits are a last care, BUT, I do agree you have to be physically attracted to someone in order to have that sexual chemistry beyond friendship, BUT, please, no one is perfect, so get over it. People exaggerate, some people do see something that no longer exists, but if I ever went on online dating, I would put absolutely ALL my flaws and let you discover my perfections in person so there are no suprises, and the crazy guy who's crazy enough to fall in love with me to meet me after that is really worth it. No games, just straight forward.

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  • Leah's Avatar
    Posted by Leah Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:38am PDT

    Mauna, that's not fair. Some people do not meet other singles in their normal routine. Going to bars is not something they want to do anymore and there really jusst aren't enough avenues to meet new people.

    I tried those dating sites, but tired of the superficialness of the whole thing...a lot of the women want relationships and most of the meen are shopping for a booty call.

    You shouldn't lump people into catagories...especially when you don't understand the dynamics of why people make the choices they do.

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  • Tina's Avatar
    Posted by Tina Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:40am PDT

    MAUNA....

    About a year ago i met a man on plentyoffish.com, and we got married this past saturday. I was VERY skeptical of trying the online thing, but i wanted to reach other people besides ones in my tiny home town. some craziness was expected, and i did have a few wiered run-ins...but who would have thought i would meet my husband that way? i would reccomend it to anyone . and YES, i know how to talk to people and carry a conversation easily.

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  • Leah's Avatar
    Posted by Leah Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:54am PDT

    Oh, and by the way, I met the love of my life on eHarmony. We couldn't be happier.

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  • Jackie's Avatar
    Posted by Jackie Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:19am PDT

    I met my husband on a dating site. We were each other's first dates from the "online thing".

    I was sick of meeting the same type of guys over and over. It was an easy way to expand my "dating pool" and open up new doors/opportunities. I was easily able to meet men when out with friends, but none of the "men" seemed to have what I wanted....brains, drive, and self-respect.

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  • fools_and_sages's Avatar
    Posted by fools_and_sages Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:23am PDT

    None. . A lot of people who use online dating are looking for a fast and dirty hook-up. Many are not looking for a lasting relationship. I know I've had profiles up on and off over over the last few years and swore off online dating because of it. If people are going to eharmony or similar costly pay sites, they are probably looking for something more serious. People who use free or low-cost sites are looking to get some.

    And all people who resort to online dating are not desperate. And ALL are not simply looking to get laid. There are plenty of nice people out there who don't have the time or desire to go to clubs and who might not have a large family or a large group of friends to hook them up.

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  • None's Avatar
    Posted by None Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:23am PDT

    "Fools_and_sages" Ya I meant no offense, I meant that this is their last resort at finding true LOVE, and yes, most people I agree, are looking to get laid, I don't understand the point of paying a site just for sex, there are plenty of casual encounters" sex specific sites for that, why do some freaks keep on corrupting sites that are geared towards finding true love? Go to Craigslists freaks! But while I was very against online dating before, I have become open to it, haven't tried it...but I have met really cool plp online, who are as normal as anyone, AND, I think online dating is great because you can say this is what I want & don't want so you aren't wasting anytime, but some plp as "Mauna" said are afraid of the real world, we are so impersonal nowadays, texting, email, phones, online, letters, we are afraid to face reality and actually talk to a real person, because we all like to live in fantasy whether you joyride the cyber world, drink or do drugs to escape it.

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  • Kyle's Avatar
    Posted by Kyle Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:51pm PDT

    i online date and am in no way looking for just a hook-up

    size to me only matters because i weigh 120lbs myself (on a good day) and i don't think i could ever pyshically function with a girl much much bigger than me, i have nothing against bigger women or plus size girls it's their thing, but to me attraction and personality both matter, and me myself being a really skinny guy i've never really been attracted to girls that wieghed much more than 140-150lbs, its not because of society making it that way it is just my personal preference which everyone has a different personal preference

    i layed out that i was looking for something long-term and serious

    I've never lied on my profile as it is 100% of who and what i am inside and out, or else i wouldn't have spent the time to even fill out the profile or customize my page to my liking, including my wants/needs and interest

    but i can agree i've had women talk to me using decieving pictures which by all means i'm not stupid and so like you said if they only have 10 pictures of themself and no mirror shots showing their whole body then most likely i won't even talk to them to begin with becuase honesty is a big thing to me and that to me isn't being honest at all

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