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Monday, December 7, 2009

I need advice: Is there such a thing as an ugly vagina?

Dear Em & Lo,

A male acquaintance recently started a conversation about "ugly" vaginas with my friends and I. He said that some vaginas resemble "kebabs" and that a lot of guys are really put off sex when they get a hot girl naked and find that her vagina isn't as "neat" as they imagined it would be. It made me feel really self-conscious about my own, even though I never have been before. Anyways, as I have never really seen many vaginas before, I decided to search "ugly vaginas" online. I was curious about what an ugly vagina actually is, and whether mine was one of them. Oh my god! I was shocked. What I thought was normal is actually "kebab-like"!!!! There were images of "beautiful" and "ugly" vaginas. The Vagina Institute in particular compares the two. The "beautiful" ones have plump outer labia and you can't see the inner labia poking out from them...but the ugly ones are just like mine, when you can see the inner lips slightly. It has made me feel so self-conscious. I hate to think of my ex and future partners being turned off by my vagina, especially as I try to keep it neat by trimming and waxing! Now I feel like growing a bush to try and hide my lips!! The horrible things is, I think when I was younger my vagina was more beautiful (I've seen the pictures of me running around naked on the beach as a child)...at least it looked more like the beautiful vagina pictures. It looked more like a little bottom than an adult vagina. Do you think that I have made it look worse by having lots of sex or something? Or is it just where I am older (I am 22 now). Can you have surgery on your vagina? I really want my inner lips to be made smaller. Is it possible?

--"Ugly" Betty

Dear U.B.,

Oh man. Where do we start? We could write an entire book on this topic. And it would involve a lot of ranting and swear words. Let's try for the abridged version.

First of all, the bad news: We hate to say it, but yes, there are plenty of guys out there who, like your pal, use terms like "roast beef" or "kebab" to describe what they consider to be ugly vaginas. We wish we didn't live in this kind of world, but damn it, we do, and much as we'd like to lie to you and tell you that all guys are just happy to get access to any vagina, no matter what it looks like, we can't.

These same guys will probably tell you (if you ply them with enough drinks) that a so-called ugly vagina, where the inner lips protrude beyond the outer lips, looks that way because the woman has had too much sex. And this is why they find "imperfect" vaginas a turn-off--it makes them think the vagina has too much "mileage." ( Know Thyself, Inside and Out: Female Anatomy 101)

First of all, what the double-standard ----- ? But second, they're flat-out wrong. Sex does not make your labia "grow." Let's say that one more time: The size and shape of a woman's labia has nothing to do with the number of notches on her bedpost.

But now the good news: Just because some guys think this way, doesn't mean you have to put up with it. Say no to vagina prejudice! Here are ten things you should know that may help you fight the good fight.

1. Even though seedy quack operations like the Vagina "Institute" (no link for them, they're assholes) will tell you that vaginas like yours are "abnormal," they're not. There's no such thing as abnormal when it comes to labes. (Okay, maybe if you could play hackysack with your inner labia, that would be a bit abnormal.) Labia come in all shapes and sizes. Most women's aren't symmetrical, and it's incredibly common for a woman's inner labia to protrude beyond the outer labia. (It's for this reason that we always use the terms "inner labia" and "outer labia" rather than "labia majora" and "labia minora," which falsely represent the scale). (An ob-gyn explains what's really going on down there.)

2. You know the only place where the vast majority of vaginas do look "perfect" (i.e. the same)? Porn. And it's for the same reason that most of the ladies in porn have big boobs: It's a job requirement, so if they weren't born that way, they go under the knife to get that way. It stands to reason, therefore, that guys who watch a ton of porn are more likely to have strong (and wrong) opinions about your labia.

3. Yes, you can have surgery on labia. And NO, YOU SHOULD NOT EVEN CONSIDER DOING THIS. If you don't believe us, Dr. Kate says the same thing. Your labia are full of nerve endings. Every day we are inundated with letters from women saying they can't orgasm--and you want to lessen your chances?!! Labiaplasty (that's the "technical" term) to trim your inner lips definitely won't make sex feel better for you, and it definitely could make sex less pleasurable or even painful.

4. The more a guy is into you, the less likely he is to give a ----- what your vagina looks like. Sure, there are some guys out there who have an unbending aesthetic preference, love be damned, just as there are some women out there who can't imagine sticking it out with a guy who's less than average-sized. But just as most women will overlook a man's size if they're in love with the man attached to that penis, so too will most men learn to love your labia. Hey, it's not the worst thing in the world to hold off on getting naked with a guy until you're sure he likes you for more than just your genitals.

5. We speak from personal experience here: One of us (we're a tad prudish so we won't tell you which one) has a classic "ugly" vagina, though she didn't know it was deemed so until a few years back. But you know what? She thinks it makes sex better. Like we said, the inner labia are chock-full of nerve endings, and they encase the clitoral head, which means that during intercourse, there's a whole lot more friction going on. Friction = stimulation = Big Os for her. So there, you vagina fascists.

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  • lm's Avatar
    Posted by lm Tue Dec 9, 2008 12:13pm PST

    YES

    JUST LOOK AT ROSIE O'DONNELS FACE

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  • Spam I Am's Avatar
    Posted by Spam I Am Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:51am PST

    ROSEBUD. The famous quote from "Citizen Kane". His toy sled.

    SUPPOSEDLY) the actual "rosebud" was William Randolph Hearst's (the

    real-life Citizen Kane) term for his mistress' pudenda.

    What could be prettier than a rosebud?

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  • Michael's Avatar
    Posted by Michael Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:49am PST

    there no such thing as an ugley vagina they all look good to me taste is what matters

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  • John's Avatar
    Posted by John Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:43pm PST

    Android, (or should I say "Estroid"?) you are an idiot. Don't know what else to say...

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  • corson's Avatar
    Posted by corson Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:45am PST

    yes their is such thing as a ugly vagina for example i know 3 girls that their vagina is hairry like a forest their name are rose,woodny,chneidie

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  • DonikaT's Avatar
    Posted by DonikaT Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:30am PDT

    the vagina institute is not some seedy quack operation. it is a site for sexuality studies and it's not telling women what their vaginas should look like, it's only showing different kinds of vaginas. That's just an uninformed thing to say.

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  • LittleGirl's Avatar
    Posted by LittleGirl Tue May 5, 2009 9:53pm PDT

    this article really made me feel better about my "ugly" vagina. Except the part where you say it makes sex more enjoyable.. yes i do enjoy sex, but sometimes when the penis goes inside me, it takes some of my inner labia, and that doesn't feel very comfortable. I was seriously considering labiaplasty for comfort and because my large inner labia makes me feel very self-conscious (I refuse to let anyone go down on me). I need advice..

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  • Darren's Avatar
    Posted by Darren Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:26am PST

    I think that women with long labia curly Labia..Protruding Labia are very Beautiful...The reason why you are not receiving the real opinion about log labia...Is because Playboy will not photograph women with long labia...They think it is very unsexy.... However this dose not cover the majority of the views of most men out thier....We cannot let Hollywood Jerpordize the VEry Very sexy beautiful woman becase of long Labia.... It is only what looks good in Photos....Is the majority of the opinion.... However Most Men would give up everting just to get to place thier organ in such a beautiful Woman as a woman that has Plenty thier.....

    Some women Spen hours and hrs Stretching thier Labia... Just to look sexy to women whom are already Endowed... Theirs can never compare to yours.... The lady that comment about the womans labai in the shower.... She said wow you have very big labia...Well she spent hours stretching hers and come to the conclusion that she wished it was naturally big...As Most women whom are condoned for such a beautiful pice of art...... Its comared to Cake that has Icing on it...

    And Cake that has no Icing on it... Which do you perfer Cake with no Icing... or Chake with Icing on it!!!! ...... Like the woman on Arnold Swarchnagar...... what did she write in the Cake.... s---!!

    Women must not drink and cook....haaaaa .... Is What Arnold Replied.... haaa He forgot her annaviersry.... and the good time they should have to gather.. So Most men Only whish they could have sex with a woman that Is Very endowed....So if you are thinking of having it Reduced.... You Need too Check your screws....Becase this is only Hollywood Speaking..... What is fashanoable in a move....Or what is sexy in A photo shoot....The Lord...Built you they way you are...And its left for the guy to find the beautiful art work the Lord Crated.... Most only can fantisize about even seeing a woman with a very big Lagia..... MY mom gave birth to 4 grils and 6 boys... I remember the frist time she tauth us that eac are difrent... She put my 2 sisters in the bathtub with me... Boy all I could do is stare...Becase one sister was diffrent from the other on... hers was very puffy with lots of labia... one of my sister...and the other one was plain.... and then MOM quincidenlty bends over to pick the towle up off the floor....She had it all... Curlly Labia from one end to the other...Talk about comming I cam all overmyself and didn't know what comming was......I never masterbated... nor even knew their was the opponit sex...Nature reacted.... However I'll never get to see that sight again... I was only 5......So I crenget wehn you talk about cutting your labia.... Its like taking away a very important part of your body that makes you look sexy and beautiful..... Thnks think about it..

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