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Tuesday, December 8, 2009

If he's already getting a divorce, is it okay to date him?

Is it ever okay to begin a relationship with a man who is “in the process” of getting a divorce?


This is a tricky one. Many years ago my sister stopped seeing a man she’d dated for only a few weeks because his divorce was not yet final, and she felt that was crossing the line.  It turned out to be something she now somewhat regrets because he was an intelligent, handsome, financially stable man, who went on to date and become engaged to another woman he met shortly thereafter.  Although I understood where she was coming from morally, I still felt as though she was being way too uptight and rigid about the whole thing.  I’m not so sure I still feel that way now. 


I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that one thing which bothers me about Cindy McCain is that she was, indeed, the other woman.  Regardless of how troubled John’s first marriage was, he was, in fact, still married when he began seeing Cindy. Whenever I see her on television, regardless of my political opinions, I cannot seem to get past the fact that she was the other woman, who went on to marry a man with whom she had an affair. Call me shallow or old fashioned, but I find it difficult to respect her, or envision her as First Lady, knowing she was a party to an affair which may have ended a marriage.  Now, most recently, there’s Barbara Walters and CBS correspondent Lara Logan. I don’t know if the married men with whom they had affairs were in the process of getting divorces when they began dating, or if the marriages simply ended on their own, but either way, I find it troubling. 


My current 40 year old perspective is that it is necessary to allow one relationship to end before beginning a new one.   In my opinion, a marriage ends when the divorce is final and the parties are free to marry again.  Many people believe a relationship may be deemed over when the parties are physically or emotionally separated, while others feel that if a marriage is already in trouble, it is okay to began dating the man...after all, since he’s going to date other women anyway, why not be one of them? 


I am interested in hearing others perspectives on this; in terms of when a marriage is truly over and at what point is it okay to began a new relationship.

Danine Manette
http://www.ultimatebetrayal.com

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  • Been There Done That's Avatar
    Posted by Been There Done That Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:52am PDT

    Coming from someone who has been in that situation, I feel my marriage was final the day I had my attorney file the Petition for Dissolution papers! However, it took over 3 1/2 years for my divorce to become final! My spouse did not want the divorce and did everything possible to drag the divorce out. I do not feel that someone should have to pass up any potential relationships just because of a piece of paper!

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  • choochiscute's Avatar
    Posted by choochiscute Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:43pm PDT

    I experienced this about 2 years ago. A guy I met one night asked me out. Right away he was upfront about how he was going through a divorce. They had been together for 15 years, married for 10 with 2 girls. My very first question to him was whether or not he was ready to date. That was a big concern to me since they'd been together for so long. He stated that he in fact was. I wasn't thrilled with the situation, but since he'd been honest with me I gave it a go. He had his own place and his own things, so over the course of the 1st month we were dating I grew more and more accepting of his situation. The first month was great fun. We did all the fun stuff new couples do and I was excited about the fact that I met a great guy that had it together, loved his family, was a great dad (all the things I find irresistible). I started to think though shortly after that he might not be ready for a relationship. Going into month 2 the more time I spent with him the less fun I was having and I realized how insecure he was. It got to the point that he was leaning an awful lot on me for support. As much as I tried to offer advice and comfort him the worse I felt. I wanted this new relationship to be just that: new and exciting. It felt like I was just the pawn he vented his frustrations to at the end of the day. Then he wanted me around all the time...even when he wasn't home. He would ask me to sleep at his house at night so that I would be there when he got off work (he was a police officer that worked 11pm to 7am). After about a month of this new behavior it donned on me that I was strictly the rebound...maybe not the rebound, but I was there going through all the motions that he was used to, such as being the warm body in bed next to him or the 'wife' that was home when he got off work. We didn't last long into the third month. It was such a bummer because I was crazy about the guy. The guy that I met and that I dated in the first month. I doubt highly that I'll date another man going through a divorce. I need to know for a fact that any guy I'm with is ready and willing and unfortunately, he wasn't.

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  • ANGIE's Avatar
    Posted by ANGIE Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:45pm PDT

    I MEET THIS GUY HE TOLD THAT HE TOLD ME THAT HE WAS DIVORCED FROM HIS WIFE SO WE STARTED SEEING EACH OTHER AND AFTER A YEAR HE TOLD ME THAT HE WASN'T DIVORCED. I WAS ALL READY IN LOVE WITH HIM, BUT HE WAS CHEATING ON HIS WIFE. AFTER THE DIVORCE WE LIVED TOGETHER FOR 6 YEARS, THAN ONE DAY I GOT A PHONE FROM GIRLS THAT SAID HE WAS SEEING THEM SO I ASKED HIM. THAN ONE DAY I CAME HOME FROM WORK AND HE MOVED OUT.

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  • fools_and_sages's Avatar
    Posted by fools_and_sages Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:11pm PDT

    I think it depends on the situation. I mean divorces are expensive. If the couple has been separated and living apart with a child support agreement in place for a long time it's entirely different from dating somebody who just moved out yesterday.

    But you have to be careful. Sometimes divorces don't get finalized because he is too lazy to do it.o it. I dated a guy who had been living apart form his wife and had had a child support agreement in place for over 4 years but the divorce wasn't final. He wouldn't finalize it because he didn't want to pay for it. He waited for her to finalize it when she wanted to remarry. Then she lied to him about finalizing it and she claimed he hadn't received a copy of the papers because she didn't have his address to send them to. And he wouldn't give it to her.

    It turned out that this lack of action on his part reflected the fact that he could never take action to do anything when it needed to be dealt with. I found out he owed back taxes and owed creditors despite a bankruptcy, which meant we wouldn't be able to get a mortgage unless it was in my name. He was always talking baout big plans and big dreams and he never did anything to make them happen-- but he would sit around and complain about how fate screwed him over all the time and blame everybody but himself for the problems he had to address.

    So. . the unfinalized divorce can be symptomatic of a series of larger personality flaw-- laziness, cheapness, irresponsibility, and plain and simply living in a different reality from the rest of the world.

    And I will say this. . . the minute the word marriage is brought up regarding you and him, you tell him you will ABSOLUTELY NOT accept a ring from him until he is legally single. Proposing to a woman when you know you can't marry her is merely a ploy to make her feel trapped. And-- ladies-- if you are good enough to propose to, then you are worth an actual wedding, right? Protect your self-esteem.

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  • urassismine2's Avatar
    Posted by urassismine2 Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:29pm PDT

    In most states, there is a time period of legal separation from 6 months to 18 months before the divorce is final. What's he supposed to do in that time? Stay celibate and twist in the wind. I don't think that most men are going to do that.

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  • Laila's Avatar
    Posted by Laila Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:25pm PDT

    I am dating a guy who is in the process of filing for divorce.

    I feel like it is a difficult time even though they know they will be happier in the long run it is a big change and a feeling of failure for the person.I was friends with this guy for awhile before it even got to another level and he just felt alone and really needed someone to talk too.It is the most wonderful thing that's ever happened to me,Point is if it happens it happens,He is already divorced from her emotionally and has been for awhile so other than the amount of time we can spend together every thing is basically like we're both single anyway.

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  • stella's Avatar
    Posted by stella Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:09pm PDT

    everybody has great points

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  • __A_YAHOO_USER__'s Avatar
    Posted by __A_YAHOO_USER__ Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:24pm PDT

    what if u meet a guy and they tell you that they are separated, but living in the same house with their spouse,and they are working towards the divorce? Is that a red flag? or is it something that can be overlooked?

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  • QT4U's Avatar
    Posted by QT4U Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:59pm PDT

    A red flag?? Try a nuclear explosion! Run for your life honey. I've got some track shoes if you need to borrow them!

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  • Annaw's Avatar
    Posted by Annaw Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:38am PDT

    LOL. Good one!!

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