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Friday, July 25, 2008

Joe Hottie: She doesn't want a relationship, PART 2

Cont. from Holla Back ...

I sort of felt like Popeye had just tied my entire stomach into a knot. There was a 10 second pause on the phone. "Ummm," I finally managed to stammer. My own voice had started quivering, too. "I really don't know what to say. Wow. I guess, thanks for telling me?" I'm not usually one for a loss of words, but my brain was having a difficult time processing what I had just been told, making it difficult to articulate exactly what I was feeling. Which was confused, mostly, but also shocked, heartbroken, and a little angry.

I asked her to elaborate. The gist: She was on the verge of starting a new job. She still had a sour taste in her mouth from her last relationship, which she hadn't told me much about, but which I gathered did not end well based on what little evidence I had gleaned. She was really content with her existing circle of friends, and invested a lot of time and effort into maintaining those relationships. Basically, she was at a crossroads of sorts in her life, and her station in life did not allow for a boyfriend at this particular moment. While we hadn't had anything even closely resembling the "relationship" talk, she was concerned that things were sort of headed in that direction. So she wanted to voice her concerns sooner rather than later.

While the call may have come out of left field, I had picked up on some of her unease before. A week ago, while in bed, I had jokingly asked her if she was my "girlfriend"; her nervous laughter indicated that she wasn't exactly comfortable with the label. And while Jessica was affectionate in private, she had an aversion to partaking in "couple-y" behavior in public (holding hands, light physical contact, etc.) Which I initially chalked up to her being a fiercely independent gal, but in light of what she had just told me, well, you know.

We talked for nearly two hours. Where did this leave us? We weren't quite sure. After all, we both still genuinely liked each other and enjoyed each other's company; cutting things off now wasn't something either of us was particularly inclined to do. But then, now that this cloud had been cast over everything, things that yesterday seemed natural--trading witty banter over IM for hours each day at work, or getting inappropriately drunk on a random Sunday night at our favorite local dive bar--seemed anything but natural. And part of me wasn't even sure I actually *did* want to keep hanging out.

But my intuition has always been pretty sound, and it was telling me that walking away wasn't the best move. I had always assumed that "I'm not ready for a relationship" is code for "I'm not ready for a relationship *with you.*" Part of me understood her feeling that the timing was off, but I was also pretty sure I hadn't totally misconstrued all of our previous interactions over the previous month. Then again, that could just be my male ego talking.

It was now 2 a.m. Tired and emotionally drained, we agreed to talk in person the next day. I hung up the phone and tried to go to sleep, to no avail.

My feeling is that it's kind of crazy to stop seeing someone because you're not sure how things will work out in the future. Human emotions, after all--particularly when it comes to this--are always subject to change. I guess some people exercise a little more discretion, though. What do you guys think?


Posted by J.H.

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  • instrumentjamlord's Avatar
    Posted by instrumentjamlord Fri May 16, 2008 9:36am PDT

    She just told you she's really content with her circle of friends, and invests a lot of time into them -- but does not want to invest in you. Ergo, you are, on her social totem pole, lower than her existing friends.

    And she doesn't want to be seen in public being affectionate with you?

    Dude, go find a woman who is happy and proud to be with you.

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  • ksracquet's Avatar
    Posted by ksracquet Fri May 16, 2008 11:22am PDT

    ditto - if someone told me they were content with their current circle of friends- then i wouldn't waste my time and energy trying to be friends with this person. Any one who tells you they don't have time for a relationship is just justifying "dumping" someone they like... guy or girl.

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  • Rita's Avatar
    Posted by Rita Mon May 19, 2008 8:36am PDT

    I think it makes perfect sense to stop seeing someone if they're not sure how things will work out in the future. 1) We're talking about now. Do you really want to waste your time waiting for this girl to "maybe" come around? 2) She sounds like someone with a lot of baggage and obviously is not in it for the long haul...even as friends. I say bail.

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  • Lexi's Avatar
    Posted by Lexi Mon May 19, 2008 9:55am PDT

    Hate to burst your bubble, hun, but she's content with things the way they are. She's got a lot of baggage from whatever her last relationship did to her and she rediscovered her friends in the process. To me, it sounds like she's afraid to put herself out there and get into another relationship, and sure, you can hang out with her and wait for her to decide she's ready. But what if she decides she's ready and you're not the one she goes running to? That's a double ouch-factor because you'll feel like a fool for waiting for her, and because you'll probably be in the friend zone and have to watch her canoodle with someone else and listen to her talk about him until her voice gives out.

    I'd rather see you write a blog about a new girl who totally takes your breath away, who wants to hold hands and kiss in public, who has gotten over whatever she may have been through in her last relationship and wants to be in one again. Best of luck.

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  • JRS's Avatar
    Posted by JRS Mon May 19, 2008 10:04am PDT

    Based on my own experience, I would say give it some time to see if anything develops. Last year, I had just gotten divorced and was really enjoying being single again. Then I met a guy who had just moved into my building. We really hit it off, but we were very clear from day one that it was nothing more than a "friends with benefits" arrangement, as neither of us was looking for anything serious.

    Well, our arrangement was working great. But then around the 6 month mark, we both started to realize there was something more to our relationship. So we discussed where things were heading with us. Neither of us had been seeing anyone else the entire time and we cared about each other a lot, and we had reached a point that we were ready for a commitment.

    So even though it wasn't something that either of us was looking for, we've become one of those happy couples doing all those couple-y things. So I would tell you to give it some time, and hopefully she'll come around. Good luck!

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  • girlinlove's Avatar
    Posted by girlinlove Mon May 19, 2008 3:56pm PDT

    Hmmmm. So hard to read between the lines, isn't it? The advice I would give my brother if he were in your situation is not to put all your eggs in her basket. But don't throw out baby with bath water either. Maybe...take a few steps back and stop calling as often as you were, and see if she "misses" you. If you don't hear anything for a few days, then call her and see what her reaction is. If she is happy to hear from you, You'll hear it in her voice, but if not, she'll be a bit tentative. Then go from there. If you're getting the latter signalage, don't waste your time anymore. I'm glad she was honest with you. But if she is simply not interested anymore, then, she wasn't as honest as we thought, was she? BTW, it is a wonderful feeling to be in love and to be loved back completely! Don't settle for less! Good luck friend.

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  • RoseB's Avatar
    Posted by RoseB Mon May 19, 2008 5:21pm PDT

    Give her a spoon of her own syrup, act like you are really ok with it and don't pay much attention to her. She'll get the message and will be looking more for you, well that is if u still care

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  • instrumentjamlord's Avatar
    Posted by instrumentjamlord Wed May 21, 2008 11:47am PDT

    I know I implied "dump her" in my first response, but just to play Devil's advocate: How do you feel about the prospect of being a friend with benefits? (Assuming that your conversation implied that was a possibility. Hard to tell from what you wrote; it sounded a little like she was trying to back off, maybe even break off entirely.) If you are cool with relaxing and leaving things the way they are, more power to you.

    Of course, no official status means that you are free to play the field. (As is she.) If you do, and she is mixed up about her feelings for you, that might cause her to regard you as a cheater, and ruin your relationship entirely. On the other hand, seeing you with someone else might clue her in to what she's about to lose to another girl who isn't commitment-phobic, and she might get off the dime and commit to you herself. Or things might continue the way they are indefinitely, and you will have to decide for yourself whether that is a waste of your time or good clean fun for as long as it lasts. (Always a potential complication for any other relationships you might be pursuing, of course.)

    I don't know, though: I keep coming back to how she doesn't want to be seen doing couple-y things with you in public. To me, that says there is someone in her social circle to whom she does not want to advertise the impression that she is "taken" by you. I think she may be gunning for another guy.

    In any case, do not treat this time as if the relationship is real and serious and you are only waiting for her to come around. Take it for what it is right now, not what you want it to be.

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  • poppies449's Avatar
    Posted by poppies449 Sun May 25, 2008 7:58pm PDT

    I think it would be really unfair to call it quits simply because she has some apprehension surrounding relationships. Basically she's been hurt so now she's really ready to be herself and hang with her friends. But obviously by spending time with you she has shown that she's willing to let you into that social circle-little by little. So be patient, once someone decides they need to be themselves without trying so hard to please others they just need a little time before they realize that those they surround themselves with are a HUGE part of who they are!

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