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Monday, November 30, 2009

Maybe hourglass figures aren't as sexy as everyone claims

You may have heard about the importance of your waist-to-hip ratio and you've also probably heard that 0.7 is supposedly the magic number when it comes to male-to-female attraction. That was Marilyn Monroe's number. Jessica Alba is about 0.7 too. So is the Venus de Milo. And while scientific studies have suggested that the waist-to-hip ratio is a better determiner of health than BMI, new arguments are being made that 0.7 is not necessarily where it's at when it comes to men's hardwired sexual responses. Elizabeth Cashdan from the University of Utah argues that maybe a little squiggle in the middle isn't so bad after all.

"Cashdan's work addresses what has long been a huge flaw in the biology-of-beauty claims, namely that few women in any society (Victoria's Secret models do not constitute a "society") have that 0.7 ratio. They tend to be much higher, with a cylindrical rather than hourglass shape. Surely, given that evolution cares only about whether your traits enable you to leave offspring, there would have been tremendous selection pressure for women to have an hourglass shape if it truly conferred greater fertility. So what explains all these imperfect women? (In Cashdan's data from 33 non-Western and four European populations, the average waist-to-hip ratio is above 0.8.)

The explanation is that androgens increase fat around the waist, raising that ratio. But androgens also increase strength, stamina, and competitiveness. 'The hormonal profile associated with high [waist-to-hip ratio]. . . may favor success in resource competition, particularly under stressful circumstances,' writes Cashdan. 'The androgenic effects--stamina, initiative, risk-proneness, assertiveness, dominance--should be particularly useful where a woman must depend on her own resources to support herself and her family.'"(Source)

That logic is pretty sound, especially when you figure that the current idea of a nuclear family is not what evolution had in mind. In fact, when it came to procreation, neolithic man was more likely to make his deposit and then go all deadbeat daddy (or just dead daddy) before his progeny were old enough to defend themselves, which leaves mom swinging the club to defend the cave.

When I read about the whole magic waist-to-hip ratio during my undergrad anthropology courses, I had to immediately take my own measurements and do the math, and whaddya know, fat girls can be 0.7 too. I took my measurements again last night and yup, I've gained inches around my ass, so now I'm 0.73. Strangely, I feel like I'd still be lousy in a fight. (Sculpt sexy curves, pronto!)

Cashdan has a little more analysis on the subject when it comes to the availability of resources.
...Men may prefer this non-hourglass shape, despite claims to the contrary, in countries where women tend to be economically independent (Britain and Denmark). Only in countries where women are economically dependent on men (such as Japan, Greece and Portugal) do men prefer the thin-waist ideal of female beauty. In some non-Western societies where women bear the responsibility for finding food, men prefer larger waist-to-hip ratios. Cashdan puts it this way: "Whether men prefer a [ratio] associated with lower or higher androgen/estrogen ratios . . . should depend on the degree to which they want their mates to be strong, tough, economically successful and politically competitive." (Source)
Intriguing! This analysis supports my belief that we are intelligent creatures who have the ability to override our evolutionary programming, based on the availability of resources in the modern world. I'd like to believe that I personally have preferred a person's soul to their genetic build, but then I look at my linebacker-esque husband and every guy that I've ever seriously clicked with sexually and get the feeling that maybe this line of thought is a Pandora's box best left sealed.

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  • cindy's Avatar
    Posted by cindy Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:55am PST

    huh?

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  • tayana's Avatar
    Posted by tayana Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:13am PST

    I say if you are happy with ur self then don't worry about what others have to say or think about you, as for me I work out to enhance my shape, build muscle and tone my body. And of course to build up more stamina ......(use your imagination.

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  • Bea's Avatar
    Posted by Bea Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:19am PST

    i have an hour glass figure and i manage stress very well....

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  • Robert J's Avatar
    Posted by Robert J Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:31am PST

    This is another useless attempt to allow fat women to feel good about themselves, and try to shame men into being attracted to fat women.

    It won't work, dearies. Men are DRAWN to that 0.7. Always have been, always will be.

    Men are attracted to thin waists. Women are attracted to thick wallets.

    That's life.

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  • Gigi's Avatar
    Posted by Gigi Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:35am PST

    This article was all over the place! It really needed a bit of editing before it was posted!

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  • Mikedawg53's Avatar
    Posted by Mikedawg53 Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:45am PST

    If the mind and personality aint there, than the body aint worth the dirt we walk on today.

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  • Will E's Avatar
    Posted by Will E Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:53am PST

    uhm, Marilyn Monroe didn't have an hourglass figure. She was a thick thighed, bangin' booty ball of joy. I don't care what the numbers say or "scientific" darwinism mumbo jumbo you bring forth. She was on the rounder side and hot!

    p.s. this article made no sense.

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  • cleok's Avatar
    Posted by cleok Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:56am PST

    I can see where the author and her source are going in this article. My measurements are 36-27-42. Big butts run in my family, but all the women have small waists. I've had men of a lot of races say my figure was beautiful. My husband is white/mexican and he loves my figure. I think a lot of guys like to see a woman who is just right. In reality, guys want soemthing to hold on to. I think a lot of women just need to learn how to carry themselves also. I've seen some beautiful plus size women out there who are proud of their sizes.

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  • Bitnas's Avatar
    Posted by Bitnas Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:13pm PST

    This article is highly illogical.

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  • Sancira's Avatar
    Posted by Sancira Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:43pm PST

    The attractiveness of people depends on the culture and the century. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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