"Gays, they're just like us!"

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  Posted by john Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:21pm PDT

  Well, considering the avg "gay" marriage last just 2 years and each partner has on avg 8 other partners during that time I don't think it is like a marriage between a man and woman at all.

  In gay marriage friendly counties (usa and canada aside b/c it is an agenda issue there; and even there it is under 15 % with ppl coming in from out of state to get married) the gay couple's that get married are under 2%. So less then 2% of the couples in a subgroup that makes up only 1 to 5% of a population. LOL, and then the 50% of the 2% are 'divorced' in under 2 years.

  Then you look at the Male married to a Female NFP practicing couples and see that 98% don't get divorced. I don't think this sounds anything the same. There is a big difference between love and infatuation or self-gratification... I think the statistics speak for themselves.

  And Erin, you should warn your readers that those with an active gay lifestyle live on avg 20 years less than non-gays. There is nothing wrong with 'being gay' but persuing a gay lifestyle is more dangerous than ciggarettes and the rates on mental illness & depression are much higher in the actively gay community.

  Which are all reasons why the gay lifestyle should not be promoted as a healthy alternative lifestyle. Once Gay marriage was allowed, in counties where it has been allowed for ten years or more, why is the gay community not taking advantage of it; just because marriage appears to be more about seeing the gay lifestyle as equal than about 'love'.

  Look up actual marriage statistics and health statistics even the ones that are provided within gay magazines before talking about equality and promoting a lifestyle that on avg can cause a child to die 20 years before his/her time.

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  Posted by j_dyannl Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:53am PDT

  THIS IS ABSURD...THEY ARE PEOPLE JUST LIKE US YES...BUT GOD CREATED MAN AND WOMAN TO BE TOGETHER TO PROCREATE...SO HOW ARE TWO MEN AND TWO WOMEN GOING TO DO THAT...THINK ABOUT IT IF WE DO THIS THEN WHAT KIND OF FUTURE ARE THEIR CHILDREN GOING TO HAVE...THIS JUST BRINGS ABOUT MORE CONFUSION.

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  Posted by soulfisher T.M.C......... Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:26am PDT

  Hello dyanni,looks like you have your mind in good order!! see my thoughts about it are that if what they want us to accept their rational regarding this matter,none of us would even exsist and that would`nt be right .. so I thank God for my parents one man and one woman...AMEN !!

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  Posted by Me Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:53am PDT

  Wow, I'm at a loss for words as I read the two comments before mine. To comment on the comment of procreation, is marriage was solely for procreation then would you forbid a barren woman to marry a man who was also unable to have children. Wouldn't the ultimate reason to marry be LOVE! Another thing with the way we are populated i highly doubt that as a society we will be extinct any time soon because of same-sex marriages. As far as their children's future, I would expect it to be the same of any child that is raised in a loving and nurturing family, be it gay or straight.

  As for John statistics, I am curious about your statistics and how you fail to mention the many divorces all over america. (Which is a very sad reality and I am by no means proud of that) Perhaps you live in a city where 98% actually stay married that is impressive and note worthy. I however, live in a world where straight couples marry everyday, only to get a divorced or annulment in a matter of months. Another thing, I have several gay friends that aren't rushing out to get married, just because it's now legal. However, those who have been waiting and hoping for this day to come, the day when they can marry the person that they love and have pledge their love to, they are making plans to marry. These couples aren't marrying, because it just sounds like a fun thing to do, but because they desires the same rights and recognitions that all couples married are entitled to. How narrow minded of you to think otherwise, it's like african americans ride the bus because they won that right all those years ago. No they ride the bus because they have the right to use it for what it is intended. Granted that is a lame example, but it is the same principle.

  As a straight person, I who doesn't see how any couple getting married, gay or straight hurts or affects anyone else's life. As far as I'm concerned, it only affects theirs. Now, my best friend is gay and will marrying the women she loves in less than a week and I will proudly stand by her as she takes that next step in her life. One thing to note, is that it in no way does her marriage to another woman affect my life's course, my ambitions or my ability to one day start a family of my own. If anything is restores some of my faith in a society that defends and believes in equality for all mankind, be them black, white, red, gay or straight. Race, sexuality, color or creed shouldn't matter, but equality to all who desire it.

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  Posted by Jay Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:28am PDT

  okay I have been with my partners for 5 years we have been throwing around the idea of marriage it is important to both of us we have between the two of us 5 children ages between 17-9 they want to see us married but we really want are marriage to legal not only for the fact that we love one another but on the benefit of our children if something happens to me or her we would be able to raise our kids as a family as they know it and honestly I am prud to say that we have great kids because we both contributed to their life

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  Posted by c_frezza99 Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:29am PDT

  There is no rush for gays to marry in MA and CA bc the rights don't carry over to federal rights, like filing taxes as married or social security. Until gay marriage is treated EQUALLY on a federal level there won't be a rush to have gay marry. And divorces are no more prevalent than straight marriages, just pulicized more bc of the amount of legal wrangling that must be done since they are not nationally accepted - yet.

  And as for John6, wow I know where to look for laughs from now on. Your stats really sound super valid.....

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  Posted by Jay Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:33am PDT

  The comment before mine well said and God Bless You

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  Posted by Beth Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:35am PDT

  Very nice post Me 4, you said everything I was going to say to the previous posts. It is easy to manipulate the numbers to say what you want and sound "official" so John's "Statistics" have no weight with me unless he can show proof of an actual study that was done. Which since gay marriage hasn't been around long enough, I can't see that an effective study has been completed yet.

  I thank god for my parents as well Soulfisher, 1 gay man and 1 gay woman. As well as their many gay and straight friends that helped raise me to be the independant open-minded woman that I am. All the gay couples that I knew growing up are still together after 26 years. It doesn't matter if you are gay or straight, it's all about loving your partner. And that's what these people want to do. What if it was your brother or sister who came out as gay, would you want to deny them the right to love whoever they fall in love with? Wouldn't you want them to be happy just like you?

  Besides, they aren't affecting you in anyway, they aren't asking you to marry them, they aren't even asking you to understand them. All they want is to be recognized legally by the state as a married couple. Freedom is supposidly one of the foundations of this country, if you don't like it then maybe you should move to another country that might cator to your ideal ways...maybe china.

  Oh and PS, as for the procreation comment....gay people will have their own children or adopt just like any other couple. This world is already overpopulated anyway, when God said "go forth and be fruitfull" it was when the population of the world was what...2...10..100. I think the species will be ok for another few thousand years, especially since homosexuality has been around for thousands of years and has been documented in over 500 different animal species.

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  Posted by oohay Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:05am PDT

  Wouldn’t a more logical explanation be that gay marriage was illegal therefore the state had many homosexuals waiting for the opportunity to get married. Once the state allowed it there was a rush to the courthouse and once those couples marred there weren’t as many singe homosexuals wanting to get married. It’s not like the allowing of gay marriage instantly makes more people gay. The homosexuals who wanted to get marred ranged in age, now you are simply looking at marriages of either older gays who opted to stay single or those younger who are just deciding to become gay, of course the numbers will tale off. The New York Times is stupid and so is your article for not pointing out the obvious and attempting to cloud a simple reason.

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  Posted by Lucy Tue Jun 17, 2008 7:29am PDT

  As far as I know, the straight community never had to fight for a law to legalize marriage between heterosexuals. This law has always existed. Now! If God wanted the lesbian and gays to marry, this law would have existed too. But not! God created the man for the woman. If lesbian and gays want to be together that's fine, but don't try to change the laws of the world because you love eachother. Just live your life. It wasn't intended to be a law.

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