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Sunday, December 6, 2009

Roman Polanski: Is it still a crime if the victim wants it to go away?

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Until a few days ago, I'd not really given the Roman Polanski story much thoughthe was basically a punchline to jokes about men interested in much-younger women. So I went looking for the facts of the case, and wow. Let's be clear about what this guy is accused of doing, so there's no confusion.

In 1977, then 43-year-old film director Roman Polanski was arrested for raping a 13-year-old girl after plying her with champagne and Quaaludes. He did all this after luring her to the home where the rape took place on the pretense that he was going to photograph her for French Vogue. He proceeded with the sex act, even after she asked him to "keep away." And when the police asked her why she didn't fight harder to resist him, she said, "Because I was afraid of him." You can read the entirety of her painful testimony here on The Smoking Gun.

Polanski eventually agreed to a plea deal that charged him with having sex with a minor, but, when it looked like a Superior Court judge might not honor the deal, he chose to flee the country. For much of his time on the lam, he's held French citizenship, since France won't extradite its citizens to the U.S.

So, now 30 years have passed. Work-wise, Polanksi has continued his legendary career by making a slew of impressive movies, including the Academy Award-winning "The Pianist." He's carefully evaded arrest by choosing to travel to places he knew he wouldn't be arrested. And then Saturday, the 76 year old arrived in Switzerland to attend the Zurich Film Festival, and the Swiss police were there to apprehend him.

Upon first glance, I say, "Finally! Justice can be served." I could care less about his supporters who call for the case to be dismissed based on the fact that he's a cultural icon. I'm not convinced he's paid for his crime in years of pain. And the case is certainly not too old or even "dead," as Debra Winger put it, to prosecute. Nor do I feel he was justified in fleeing because he believed that the judge would renege on the deal.

And I am flat out disgusted by Whoopi Goldberg saying on "The View" that "It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape." Um, excuse me? Can I get a definition of "rape-rape" vs. what Polanski did? I mean, have we all lost our minds?

But here's something that does give me pause: The victim, Samantha Geimer (pictured below from 1977 and 2008), doesn't want the case to move forward. Earlier this year, Geimer filed a formal request that Los Angeles prosecutors drop the charges against himnot because he didn't commit the crimes, but because she simply doesn't want to revisit the details of what happened and the media attention it brings. She told People in 1997, "He did something really gross to me, but it was the media that ruined my life."

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Ouch. It's horrible to think that this man's actions have ruined this woman's life twice overfirst as a sexual assault and second as a media assault during the trial and since he's fled.

So that leads me to the big question: Who really owns the crime here? Legally, it may not be the end, but should it be?

As much as I hurt for Geimer, I can't help but think about the message this case sends. If you're famous, artistically talented and rich enough, people are willing to overlook horrific crimes and even campaign for your freedom. Also, all you seemingly have to do is wait out your victim's resolve, and eventually it may not matter to her anymore, or at least that closure will matter more. Can you help but wonder how different Geimer would feel had he been extradited and stood for sentencing decades ago?

My feelings are firmly to hold people accountable for their crimes, especially one this horrible. And I don't think the decision to throw the book at this scumbag (however talented he is) should now have to fall to the victim. She gave her testimony 31 years ago! She really shouldn't have to relive it again. And there would obviously be less discussion on this if were talking about a brutal murder instead of a rape and the victim of his crime couldn't actually be intimidated into wanting the case to end.

What do you think, Shine ladies? Should this case be lessened or thrown out based on the victim's pleas? And what do you think of the circus of Polanski defenders, especially the women wholike Whoopithink we should let this go?
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  • DallasDude52's Avatar
    Posted by DallasDude52 Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:48pm PDT

    I'm a Shine Guy but I think he did the crime, he should do the time!

    Statutory Rape can manifest itself between two teens, a couple of similar age, where a prison sentence seems the greater evil. My gosh this guy was a full grown adult and she was 13.

    Whether she wants it to go away shouldn't be pertinent. It's time celebrity status means nothing to the blind scales of justice!

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  • Eric's Avatar
    Posted by Eric Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:49pm PDT

    R. Kelly taught us that if you get the crime on videotape, you'll probably be acquitted. You would think that a professional filmmaker would have been the first to figure this out.

    Polanski is a great, great artist who should die in prison.

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  • V-for-V-a-l-i-a-n-T™'s Avatar
    Posted by V-for-V-a-l-i-a-n-T™ Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:53pm PDT

    It just shows you how WARPED people's values are becoming, if this were joe blow from anywhere, USA he would have had the book thrown at him YEARS AGO, but since he has money we should just overlook it?

    BULLSHlT!!

    what are we saying? "he's roman polanski, she's a nobody, let him go"?

    she did HER PART already, it's up to law enforcement to go after Polanski, and I don't get how they want HER to say she want's justice, what if this were a dead woman(who CAN'T speak up for herself)? who decides to go after the perpitraitor then?

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  • girlonthego47's Avatar
    Posted by girlonthego47 Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:55pm PDT

    he should go to jail.

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  • Doktor Eevol's Avatar
    Posted by Doktor Eevol Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:56pm PDT

    It's stories like these that make me despise the media. Instead of letting authorities bring this man to justice to serve out his sentence without a circus, they've created emotional stress for the victim of this case. I don't think this is a problem with justice - it's a problem with how callously American media treats rape victims. No wonder the majority of rapes in this country go unreported. Why would ANY woman want to report a devastating act of crime against her if she's going to be drug through the mud on local news?

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  • Apple's Avatar
    Posted by Apple Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:07pm PDT

    yes!!!!

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  • Max K's Avatar
    Posted by Max K Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:45pm PDT

    Whoopi Goldberg saying on "The View" that "It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape."

    The View never ceases to amaze us! As the typical Hollywood liberal, Whoopie seems to be so open minded, her brains are falling out!

    Why do we give celebrities talk shows, as if fame makes someone intelligent enough to try to sway public opinion in one direction or another? Just refer to gems from Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, or Brad Pitt...

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  • Max K's Avatar
    Posted by Max K Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:46pm PDT

    Whoopi Goldberg saying on "The View" that "It was something else but I don't believe it was rape-rape."

    The View never ceases to amaze us! As the typical Hollywood liberal, Whoopie seems to be so open minded, her brains are falling out!

    Why do we give celebrities talk shows, as if fame makes someone intelligent enough to try to sway public opinion in one direction or another? Just refer to gems from Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, or Brad Pitt...

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  • Bobbie's Avatar
    Posted by Bobbie Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:21pm PDT

    I don't care who he is or how long its been or that his victim is ready too close the door on all Of this.He still raped a 13 year old child and yes it was rape! Just because she did what he asked and didn't cry out, Makes know diffrence.A 13 year old child doesn't react like you or me.HE needs to be punished like anyone else that would do such a thing.

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  • lansm's Avatar
    Posted by lansm Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:16am PDT

    I think he needs to be punished but his victim should be allowed to live her life. If the gov't wants to charge him, go for it but leave this poor victim out of it. It should be a personal choice to participate in your own court case. It's been so long, I don't believe in punishing victims.

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