User post: How to Date a Rich Man

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  Posted by Doktor Eevol Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:03pm PDT

  Dubs: There's sexist material towards women ALL over this blogsite known as Shine. You can see the latest one about Kirk Douglas staring at Catherine Zeta Jones' boobs. I'm wondering what your comment is going to be on THAT topic. Will you be just as defensive there for women as you are here for men?

  "Why on earth would a wealthy man want to date you?" I can tell you why. They believe working class women are easier to impress, less expensive to maintain a relationship with, and easier to manipulate by accusing them of golddigging if they want to get married. They'll treat you like you are their unpaid personal servant - they'll have you doing their laundry, cooking their meals, and sexually servicing them at night. All without a cent off of their bank accounts.

  In a nutshell, you're a date from the bargain bin. Don't let them fool you with their guilt trips and conniving "I just want to be loved for me" because even if you do love them for them, they won't believe you. They're just saving up their resources for a woman in their own income range.

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  Posted by Dubs Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:12pm PDT

  Actually I did post there...and mostly likely you'll pick it apart with contempt as you do most posts concerning gender relations when it comes to supposed male chauvinistic behavior because that seems to be the only subset of behavior you attach to them. So you can counter with some chauvinism yourself which only makes you appear like some bitter pill without a lighthearted bone in her body due to some negative experience that occurred in your life which emboldens your textbook shrewish outlook of men. ( All it takes is a quick review of your posts to get the general gist)

  I defend women all the time, I am against gender stereotypes and double standards which only sow division amongst the sexes. I am accountable for my own actions and steer clear of the external locus of control mentality which seems to dominate a lot of the content here on this site. If you would like to put me under the microscope go ahead and search my input on the "Why abortion debate turns deadly" or "Is chivalry a dying art" or "Why women can't stop reading Self-Help books on Relationships" go right ahead.

  So if your so concerned with men or anyone for that matter looking at you in a manner that remotely offends you...do us all a favor and stay inside. God forbid someone look at you as if you were some mythical gorgon with snakes in her hair waiting to turn someone to stone in an earnest attempt to engage you.

  And as a footnote...I don't need to blame feminism in order to illuminate obvious shrewish behavior like you so frequently invoke about men posting on matters that they may interpret as sexist. They may have some validity to their point of view but when you are so predetermined to undermine them by painting them one shade of grey maybe you yourself could use a bucket on your own head to put things in perspective...I will certainly oblige you.

  Chauvinism and Sexism isn't monopolized by either gender.

  So take this retort how you will, doesn't really matter...or were you just biding your time to garner my attention? I am truely flattered my backbone has made such an impression. :P

  /Cheers

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  Posted by Doktor Eevol Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:43pm PDT

  Gee Dubs, your condescending lecture says VOLUMES about your real attitude towards women. Calling me a shrew, saying I'm textbook, a bitter pill, how I shouldn't leave my house ect. You can't bear to share the planet with a woman who doesn't behave according to YOUR personal expectations can you? Why, if a woman doesn't behave according to the Almighty Word of Dubs, she just might as well not exist should she? Well last I checked nobody died and made you god.

  So, you can take your lectures, print them out, and recite them to yourself in the mirror. I have a feeling that's the second best place they'll be most effective. Yeah, you can guess the first one.

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  Posted by Dubs Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:04pm PDT

  Pot, Kettle, Black hun...where and when did my personal expectations get involved with this? I don't put stock in expectations, only initiatives. Do you understand the difference? So that means I "want" to be there for her because I "want" to care about a woman's aspirations, health and feelings. But to you, everything is about an ulterior motive, an illusion to attempt to get in your pants to mold you into some docile unthinking fawn bending you to a man's will. We tend to call this paranoia.

  I'm sorry but this was the lamest attempt at beltlining in order to save face from being called out on such blatant contempt.

  A woman can be anything she wants to be doesn't matter, I'd support her. What is really up with the delusional patriarchal prison you seem to surround yourself with? An obvious esteem issue is evident. Find some help. Really.

  I guess the mirror is calling...since I'm so gallantly arrogant that I need to sit on my back of my female servant as she worships every step I take. (this is sarcasm by the way, thought I would need to explain it) /wink

  Remember that prozac. /Cheers

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  Posted by Rae Sat Jun 13, 2009 2:09am PDT

  I don't have money myself but I come from a wealthy lineage, and I just hope that people can get past the superficial crap and produce something real. Money is only one of many issues. Just try to apologize if you take someone for granted and if your real it will last, if your not it is just wasting time. Nobody has enough money to replace a life. Take Care-Rachel.

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  Posted by Monica Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:11am PDT

  I can only imagine the type of reaction an article titled "how to date a woman with great big boobs" or "how to date a rich woman" would get.

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  Posted by Aj Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:09am PDT

  I enjoyed reading Doktor and Dubs arguements, very well written and insightful! You two make up the reasons why I read Shine, to hear what intelligent people have to say regarding gender specific labels! Simply beautiful! These two just made me miss the brain streching days of college! Aw... its been so many years ago.... Well toodles!

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  Posted by Doktor Eevol Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:20pm PDT

  Dubs, let's talk about what REALLY bothers you. A woman that actually DOES has enough personality and self esteem to stand up to your fake, condescending attitude. Not used to that huh?

  Obviously you are used to being around women who are desperate for a man just to be decent to them, that they fawn all over you for simply not being offensive. You join a web site like Shine, expect to get your own little group following, but instead get ticked off when ONE woman doesn't automatically jump to sing your praises because you posted one, maybe two decent comments (which aren't the ones you posted above, incidentally).

  Well I'm not that kind of person. I think a decent man has more substance than how fake and seemingly polite he seems at first. Eventually such men will show themselves for the jerks they really are. It would be pointing out the obvious that this discussion on your end proves this point.

  And way to go for adding to the stigma of mental illness by using it as a baseless personal attack (even I don't hit that low below the belt, wow, you must feel like you REALLY accomplished something!). I'm sure many women out there living with such legitimate health conditions are going to think you're a REAL nice guy after reading your inflammatory comments.

  Paranoia? I'd say that describes you and 85% of other male Shine users who are just *looking* for misandry around every corner of this blog site. And the funny thing is, people like you are so dense that you can't even notice that this blog site STILL publishes blog posts that panders to men's needs. But ONE blog post that doesn't cater to men and KAZAAM! The guys just come out of the woodwork to make war against the evil feminazis (who are, of course, conspiring to castrate them without euthanasia in secret gulags all over the United States *sarcasm*).

  Through all this absurdity, this is STILL supposed to be a WOMAN'S blog site. How ironic is that? How pathetic is it that guys like you see persecution and inequality in a friggin DEODORANT blog post? My god. Get real, Dubs. You'd save yourself a lot of time by just accepting that not every woman is going to kiss your almighty hiney. And making ugly, old fashioned, outworn stereotypes about them only reveals your own nasty attitude toward women.

  But, whatever. Most of this is going to go in one eyeball and out the other, because you are incapable of taking your own advice (which was, ironically, mine to begin with). I suspect when you reply, it'll be more of the same - with just more of my own phrases repeated back to me. A hallmark of a mediocre mind trying to accomplish more than it's capable of.

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  Posted by F1_RACECARDRIVER Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:32pm PDT

  I WANT TO DATE HOT GUYS NOT A RICH GUYS I GUESS THIS ARTICLE DON'T WORK FOR ME. MOST OF WEALTHY GUYS IN MY CIRCLE OF FRIENDS THEY FAT,OLD, UGLY AND WELL NOT THAT BRIGHT YUCK...HE HE HE !

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  Posted by Dubs Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:40pm PDT

  Yup Eevol you figured me out with that super sleuthing, totalizing, Nancy Drew style detective work. Keep painting men the way you see fit because that's the only tangent you can keep monopolizing in order to remain on your soapbox of oppression. Deodorant? Really? Truely? Is this the best comparable analogy of men persecuting women for inequalities? Uhh what?

  Me dense? Says the person that uses chauvinism time and time again to complain about chauvinism. Swimming through your own hypocrisy tends to warp that sense of objectivity.

  Lets take a look at something here.....

  Doktor Eevol posted...

  "And the funny thing is, people like you are so dense that you can't even notice that this blog site STILL publishes blog posts that panders to men's needs."

  Maybe because...men represent the other half of the species? In order to propagate the species we may need the opposite sex? *gasp* Because compromise and collaboration are really misogynistic fallacies in order to establish male totalitarian control by subverting clueless women who actually like men? Stop the presses.

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  Doktor Eevol posted...

  "Through all this absurdity, this is STILL supposed to be a WOMAN'S blog site"

  I know this...but should men be censored because they may have some insightful input besides your slanted objections and tantrums about men's needs.? Wow...who knew heterosexual relationships required this input because constructive dialogue should really be only about one gender participating in affirmations? Because it wouldn't be 50/50 right? Well according to you.

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  You keep making these assumptions that I'm some fake, condescending, narcissistic playboy who manipulates women into a false sense of complacency about my true character. You can keep making me that straw man in order to further your talking points, go right on ahead. As I posted before you can read what you want to read and see what you want to see because its apparent that your own illusory assessments of people which are in fact unfounded and untrue bolster that crutch of denial of your own hypocrisy.

  Where and when have I ever posted that I wish women to kiss my behind? Another attempt at misdirection in order to character assassinate, I say. A pity, because an intelligent woman like yourself really should of considered that strategy obsolete..but when your grasping for straws in desperation to regain the upper-hand of the argument....it just makes you look even more silly.

  Face it. You just can't stand it when a man has an actual backbone...and treats you as you treat men. A spoiled brat complaining that her side of the playground should be off limits to the boys because they're so mean and nasty.

  Here's a band-aid for your bruised ego. You don't own the playground.

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