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Wednesday, November 25, 2009

What Is Off Limits To Criticize Women About?

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Some work friends and I were recently discussing things that men can not criticize their girlfriends about. It was astounding how incorrect us guys were when trying to lay out our "rights" in terms of constructive criticism. The women in the office were appalled at what we thought we were allowed to talk about. If I could figure out what I am allowed to criticize and what I should stay away from, I'd avoid arguments and do a better job of hitting on girls.

I'm guilty of saying things to women that only their best girlfriends, gay male friends, and moms/sisters are allowed to say. I put together a list below:

Weight

There is no friendly way for a guy to tell a girl that she's put on weight. Even if there was a friendly way, most of the women I've talked to about it said they would not want to hear it from a guy. It seems obvious, but not all guys know this. We polled some of the guys in our office, and the prevailing male opinion was as long as she's your girlfriend, or you've known each other for a while, then you can make weight loss suggestions. I think the best policy is silence. If I"m desperate to make a suggestion, maybe I tell one of her girlfriends to do it on my behalf.

Outfit

I think I'm only allowed to say someone generally looks nice, or I like her shirt or whatever. Getting too detailed or negative gets me in trouble. In fact, I attempted to "add on" to a compliment I gave a girl once. I told her she looked great, because she had a new outfit on. Now, remembering those times I saw my sisters or friends bark back "thanks, and just $30 from Target," I tried to double up on my compliment: "and it looks like you didn't pay much money either." She ended up crying. I've been told by women that they dress more to impress other women anyway, and not guys. Basically, I need to stick to "you look great" and leave it there. And I should probably avoid saying I don't like something a girl is wearing. That can only lead to no good.

Friends/Family

We've all dated people with annoying friends. But, people consider their friends as extensions of themselves so if you criticize friends, you're criticizing your significant other indirectly. My older sister has a good system of putting the word "that" in front of any of her husband's friends that annoy her. "Oh you're going with that Mike to the concert?" It's not an aggressive attack, just a little poke. Family is the same rule, but you probably get in even more trouble if you criticize the family of a significant other.

Driving

Every guy thinks he's a better driver than his girlfriend. I can learn a lot from my little sister's boyfriend. One day, my sister was driving the two of us to Baltimore for a weekend. My sister is a really bad driver. She doesn't brake when she sees brake lights ahead until she absolutely has to. This leads to passenger whiplash and nausea. During this trip I said: "you know, you can brake earlier- that way you're not slamming on the brakes at the last minute and making us all sick." She said: "do I do that?" I turned around to her boyfriend for confirmation and he simply said: "no comment". My sister's boyfriend loves me because I am allowed to verbalize all the criticisms that he's thinking.

I like the "no comment" policy. But I can't stand not to give my opinion to women, even when it's bad. I want to learn the things I should hold off from criticizing about women. Do you agree with the items above? What do you hate being criticized about by guys?

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  • alaskamommy's Avatar
    Posted by alaskamommy Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:12pm PDT

    my style of housekeeping. If he hasn't been here all day to know what kind of day the kids and I have had then he has no right to comment on whether the house is tidy. Of course, my husband is great about not saying anything unless the house looks good and then just commenting on how nice the house looks.

    And yes, I agree with all of the above.

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  • Iresa's Avatar
    Posted by Iresa Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:01pm PDT

    I’m also a criticizer. Many people including my close friends said that they can’t stand the way how I criticize others. And yeah some of them even cried after receiving my opinions. Even this morning, I’m very appalled with my friend outfit and I tried to hold off from criticizing him.

    But I don’t care how others criticize me, whether it is about my appearance (my BMI is below normal range, because I have high BMR and I dress for occasion and try my best to avoid any shameful dressing code), my way of driving (most people who have been my passengers, said I’m an opportunistic driver) etc.

    There are some exceptions though, like I can’t stand if others are criticizing my family as well as my work performances.

    The conclusion is, you don’t have to worry about criticizing other because some people need to be criticized or else they may end up with more shameful events.

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  • Jean Valjean's Avatar
    Posted by Jean Valjean Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:13pm PDT

    This guy is a tool. If a man and woman are in an equal relationship then they should be able to discuss whatever comes to mind. If women get all upset because a guy says something she doesn't like then she's not really interested in what he things. In fact by throwing fits like women do they actually send the signal that men should never open up and that is exactly what happens.

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  • Queen Trixie's Avatar
    Posted by Queen Trixie Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:32pm PDT

    There is never a right way to criticize a woman when it comes to weight. Just don't do it. 99.9% of the time she's far more aware of it than you are. The mistake you made with the outfit comment is that saying that it looked like she didn't pay alot insinuates that it looks cheap. Yeah, we all love a bargain, but we don't want to look like we went shopping at a thrift store. It's always safe to say what you like about an outfit ... that color blouse looks great with your eyes; that skirt makes your booty look delicious; or you look so sexy in that lingerie. Tell us what you like and you can expect to see more of it.

    Do not insult my intelligence, that is a big 'no,no' unless of course you want to be spending the night alone. I think that as long as you are kind and tactful, there's not much you can't say to me. You can always ask if she'd mind your opinion on a certain topic. Let's say you've just spent an afternoon with her most annoying friend, you could say 'Do you mind if I voice my opinion about ________?' Chances are she does know that her friend can be annoying and in what way, but she's been friends with her for so long, she just accepts her the way she is. However, you really don't have to and I don't see a problem with requesting that you don't. She can hang out with that friend without you as long as you are willing to spend less time with your girl.

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  • Andra's Avatar
    Posted by Andra Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:16pm PDT

    Well if you tell a woman that her outfit looks like she didn't pay that much for it, it just sounds like you're saying that she looks like a hobo and all your previous comments were sarcastically used to poke fun at her. What were you thinking? Plus whenever a guy tells me my outfit looks good and pinpoints what it is about it exactly that makes it shine my Gaydar goes off, so yeah stick to "you look great today." And weight IS a tricky subject to broach, but I've usually gotten subtle hints of weight gain from friends and significant others in the form of,"hey I just started this new step class, you wanna come with me," or "Oh man that burger and fries i had for lunch today was too much I'm going to the gym tonight, are you in?" Maybe I'm crazy but anytime a guy or friend tells me about the fact that he or she is doing some new workout, I assume they're trying to tell me that I need to work out too.

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  • becca's Avatar
    Posted by becca Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:51pm PDT

    I think that when it comes to weight, dont tell unless she asks or youre seriously concerned about her health.

    Telling a girl that her outfit looks like it doesnt cost much is like calling her cheap.

    Personally, I dont see a problem with critizing her friends or family aas log as you are willing to see the flaws your friends and family have. If you cant, shut up.

    As for driving... im not sure. i've never been criticized on that. Besides, the guys in my life are the bad drivers.

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  • Mint E's Avatar
    Posted by Mint E Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:59pm PDT

    A father should never tell thier perfectly healthy daughter they're getting FAT. D:< My dad told me I have been getting fat for years and you know what it pisses me off! I am not fat. I have a 25 inch waist.

    My aunt even tells me you need to gain weight, you look too thin. =....= So yeah weight is off-limits especially when you have people telling the complete opposite.

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  • TAY's Avatar
    Posted by TAY Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:45am PDT

    Perhaps you should try keeping your mouth closed on things that you also wouldn't want your partner criticizing you on. Besides, if you've been together long enough then you should have an idea of how sensitive your partner is and then you'll know where you can take things. I find that weight is always in the category of "don't go there" because you might say she's put on a little weight, but she might hear that you don't love her anymore because you think she's fat and you want somebody else.

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  • KittyKat's Avatar
    Posted by KittyKat Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:03am PDT

    My house. You cant tell me if my house is dirty. So what if there is a little spot on the floor I missed, or one counter isnt perfect. Do you know how my day went. Then who the hell are you to complain about how it looks.

    My outfits. Yea I'll admit my outfits look cheap because they are but not by my choice. I dont have the money to buy expensive ones.

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  • Dubs's Avatar
    Posted by Dubs Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:13am PDT

    If one is willing to dish out any form of criticism, be prepared to take it in kind. Nothing is off limits to those that don't have something called restraint, tact and class. (These aren't gender exclusive traits)

    It seems lately you can criticize a man for just about anything today and then the media goes on and reinforces the idea that it's ok to go there regardless of topic. The emotional reciprocity is pretty nonexistent with the overwhelming theme that men need to be sensitive to everyone else's sensibilities no matter how fragile except their own.

    Example: How often do you hear "Be a woman" in such a manner to shame a woman's femininity or lack thereof because she wasn't conforming to some rigid gender guideline?

    I don't need anyone's permission to speak my mind, this doesn't mean I spew out stereotypes on a frequent basis like this moronic halfwit author does in order to base their arguments on as if he is a formal representative of an entire gender.

    Some people just lack common sense and courtesy. Give it a rest Rich.

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