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Saturday, December 5, 2009

Your God given right to sex and free will

I have never been shy about my struggle with religion. In On Your Knees, Boy I wrote about wanting Rex to go to church with me and his reasons for refusal. (I have ultimately accepted them for the sake of our marriage and his feelings on the subject.) Along the same lines, at my BabyCenter gig, I receive comments daily on how God helps women through the toughest of times, from incest to losing a child to dealing with a crazy husband.

As a Christian, I struggle with finding peace with a faith in Jesus but remaining open to others who don't believe as I do. My problem is not in people differing from me, but in the fact that I am so accepting of it. Is this somehow turning my back on my religion? And yet, in my heart, I simply don't believe that others are wrong for praising God in ways other than myself. I also see why people might not believe in God at all. We all have different backgrounds, so how can I say my way is better than someone else's?

As Fools and Sages wrote in a very thoughtful piece last week, Thinking: It Hurts Sometimes, But You Gotta Do it. His post was on the elections. And while it's clear that he is no Republican, he does give very valid reasons for why he feels the way he feels. He encouraged everyone to do the same and not just vote for a party member blindly.

In case you're wondering what this has to do with sex, I will state that many of my decisions in life, including sex, stems from religion. I was raised to not have sex before marriage. I was raised to not cheat. I was raised to not have an abortion. I can't say I followed advice #1, but I have yet to cheat (nor plan to), or have an abortion. But here's where I get all confused. Just because I think it's not right to cheat or have an abortion, does this mean that other people must feel the same way I do? And more important than emotions, must they act as I do?

This leads me to the upcoming elections. By voting for a pro-choice candidate (not saying I am, not saying I'm not), would this be turning my back on my faith?

Many staunch Christians will undoubtedly say, Yes. Any life, whether 5 months or 2 days, may not be eliminated. The number one commandment is 'Thou Shall Not Kill.'

The issue is that many people don't believe a one week old fetus is life. They don't consider it murder. So is it their choice (making me vote pro choice) or is my duty to vote for pro-life candidates?

We live in a country where one of the founding principals was a separation of church and state. Many believe that allows all of us praise God in a way we find fulfilling (or be atheist - whatever!) If we are indeed to divide our feelings on God from our government, many feel this means we should allow everyone to make their own decisions on abortion and marriage and not relegate it to the government. One friend reminded me that in the Bible God gives us free choice . If this is the case, many believe it's everyone's right to make that choice in the way they seem fit.

I sometimes wish I didn't think about this stuff so much. Even five years ago, my concern was making babies and enjoying my husband. And yet, now, everything's changed. Maybe it's I'm getting older. Maybe I want the world safer for my daughter and son. Maybe I'm just losing my mind. All of the above?

It's a slippery slope indeed and one that doesn't seem to have a simple answer. I'd love to hear any opinions on the subject. Just please be respectful. And, as Fools and Sages wrote, thinking hurts sometimes, but ya gotta do it.


Posted by Andrea Frazer


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  • instrumentjamlord's Avatar
    Posted by instrumentjamlord Thu Oct 9, 2008 10:51am PDT

    Voting for a pro-choice candidate is not turning your back on your faith. Choice means that you are free to continue to have your beliefs, even if others do not follow them. Don't believe in abortions? Don't have one. You can continue to be a good Christian as you understand it. (BTW, there are plenty of pro-choice Christians. "Christian" is too broad a label in this case.)

    Voting for the anti-choice candidate is not supporting your faith -- it is IMPOSING your faith on unwilling nonbelievers. To understand why that is wrong, you only need to imagine the hypothetical scenario where a Satanist gets elected.

    Or, a slightly less absurd case, perhaps an extremist Muslim, who would take away womens' freedoms in all areas of their lives, rather than merely taking away reproductive freedom, as Catholics want. Shutting down Planned Parenthood and forbidding women to drive, own property, get an education, and show only one eye beneath their burqas differ only in degree.

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  • Andrea's Avatar
    Posted by Andrea Thu Oct 9, 2008 2:48pm PDT

    I'm with you on your points, Instrument. Thank you.

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  • Southerngirl's Avatar
    Posted by Southerngirl Thu Oct 9, 2008 10:17pm PDT

    A one week old fetus a is life.Psalm 139....

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  • Andrea's Avatar
    Posted by Andrea Thu Oct 9, 2008 11:38pm PDT

    Southern Girl - Here's my question - if it is a life, and I'm not saying it is not, would that not be between the mother and God? Where does the government fit into the equation? What about seperation of church and state? Should 11 year olds carrying their father's child be forced to carry a child to term? What about their life?

    I'm not being combative. I'm truly struggling with trying to find an answer. Just a psalm written thousands of years ago is not enough. What about today's life?

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  • Me's Avatar
    Posted by Me Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:29am PDT

    As an atheist and pro-choice person - I agree with your post and instruments comments. However I do think it would be totally sad to vote for a candidate on one issue only. A president is about more than just their stance on abortion.

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  • blanchelet's Avatar
    Posted by blanchelet Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:12am PDT

    your G-O-D is like a wind of letters through the right eye,don't stop,

    blow attachments,names of what you know... .hey

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  • biscuiteater's Avatar
    Posted by biscuiteater Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:05pm PDT

    Great post! I am not a person of faith myself, but often wonder how people who are reconcile modern day quandries with belief in a text that came before technology. It is hard, and if you find yourself believing one thing or another blindly and without questioning it, I think it actually shows a lack of faith, like maybe God won't point you in the direction of the "right" answer or will point you in the direction of an answer you really don't want to hear.

    Do I agree with abortion? No. But it is not as easy an issue or answer as many religious people might have you believe, and it is complicated further by the demands of modern society. It is not just the mother's body, it is also the baby's and vice versa. So who takes precedence? It is not a black and white issue, ergo, there can be no black and white solution. If you truly believe in God, then yes, it is between you and God, not you and the US Government.

    I think istrument said it best, by outlawing outright, you are not supporting your faith, you are imposing it on unwilling fellow citizens. Could not have made a better point myself.

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  • S. M.'s Avatar
    Posted by S. M. Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:12pm PDT

    Separation of Church and State means that you should vote with your LOGIC, not your RELIGION. And just because you vote for a pro-choice candidate does NOT mean that you are godless! Live and Let LIVE! What's "sin" for you is not necessarily "sin" for me, as my dad always says (he's a Catholic.) Besides, these people that claim to be "Pro-Life" are ironically in general the ones that support war, capital punishment, etc.

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  • Mircea's Avatar
    Posted by Mircea Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:38pm PDT

    babycenterandrea: Please read psalm 139 !

    Then you will see that it is not "Just a psalm written thousands of years ago..." -It is the word of God.

    "if it is a life, and I'm not saying it is not, would that not be between the mother and God?"

    Now...IF IT IS A LIFE, would that not be a CRIME???

    If I want to shoot you - take your life - is that not a crime??? - or is it betwen me and God???

    Now I am not a parent but I do have an 11 year old baby sister, and I know that if I would explain to ANY 11 year old girl that inside the woumb there is a life, I am positive that they will not want to kill that fellow child.

    There is no question....

    A christian can NOT vote ANTI LIFE !!!

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  • Mircea's Avatar
    Posted by Mircea Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:11pm PDT

    biscuiteater: I want to state that I am very glad that THEOLOGY- the word of God - came before Technology - the work of man!!!

    Now I want to say that I congradulate you on "questioning it..." and not"believeing ...blindly!!"

    So in order to question you must read, study and pray - pray.....because you are a christian right??-oh or maybe thats what the problem is.

    You see, the true Christian read, studied, prayed and BELIEVED!!

    You dont believe, you are not a christian.... maybe a gnostic.....

    Now I am tiered of the "selfrighteus" people who say "I personaly am against abortion but who am I to impose it on everyone else..."

    That is the most hipocritical argument EVER !!

    How can you be against kiling babies,and and at the same time youlet "your neighbor" deliver a baby's head cut its head open and vacum its brains out????

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