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    The skinny on Weight Watchers' new Points plan

    A large apple would cost you points on the old Weight Watchers plan. Now you can eat it to the core without gaining a single point. (Photo by ThinkStock)A large apple would cost you points on the old Weight Watchers plan. Now you can eat it …

    Apples are getting a big fat zero. Ditto grapes. Yesterday, Weight Watchers unveiled an updated version of their Points system, slashing the number on most fruits and vegetables. Now everything from pomegranates to bananas won't make a dent on a dieter's daily Points.

    The zero-foods update is all part of Weight Watchers' revamped diet method, called the PointsPlus Program. Launched Sunday, the revised regimen rethinks the body-slimming giant's 13-year-old philosophy, which limited members to a number of daily Points based on calorie count. The new plan incorporates new strides in scientific research that prove that simply counting calories isn't enough.

    One piece of fruit and a bag of low-cal chips can have the same calorie count, according to nutrition research, but different effects on the body. That's because fruits and veggies are water-rich and have what's called "lower energy density." In other words, you get fuller faster so you don't reach for the second bag of chips. While calorie counting is still important, the new plan "takes into account the energy contained in each of the components that make up calories - protein, carbohydrates, fat and fiber - and it also factors [in] how hard the body works to process them," according to the company's PointsPlus press release.

    Since the body burns foods high in fiber and protein faster than carb-heavy products, the plan encourages lean meats and whole grains in addition to fruits and veggies. Labeled "power foods," the company's diet experts have highlighted the healthiest options not just in the produce section, but in all aisles of the supermarket. Researchers gathered nutritional information on over 40,000 grocery store products, from soups to frozen foods, and selected the most nutritious choices. So if you're looking for Points values on sandwich breads, Weight Watchers' new diet compendium will single out the healthiest whole grain, low-calorie brands. If it's labeled a "power food" " it's likely to have a lower Points value than other foods in the same category.

    Weight Watchers researchers have been testing the new plan in clinical studies and launched a version in the U.K. earlier this year. "After following the program, we've seen improvements in healthy eating habits, successful weight loss and even changes in peoples' innate response to hunger and food - ultimately aiding in long-term weight loss success," says Karen Miller-Kovach, Weight Watchers' chief scientific officer and the inventor of the original Points system.

    Despite the health benefits, there are practical concerns. Before the plan went live on the Weight Watchers website yesterday, members flooded community message boards with concerns about how the new plan would jibe with their set routine. But Danica Pike, a veteran Weight Watchers member and the blogger behind the healthy eating site, Danica's Daily, says the new program is easier to follow than the old one.

    "For me, it encompasses the way I try to live my life: eat great 80 percent of the time for the 20 percent where you live a little," says Pike, who previewed some of the new plan materials on her site. "In their past programs, I think several people would get caught up with the idea of how much or what can I get for this many Points and some companies really capitalized on the old Points formula by boosting fiber. For example, 100 calories of ice cream with fiber added was less points than say 100 calories of chicken. Obviously one food is more satisfying and better for you."

    Now Weight Watchers is taking the more responsible tactic: rewarding what Pike calls "real foods," over more processed products. With fruits and vegetables joining the hallowed zero-Points club, they're no longer competing with low-cal chips to be a chosen afternoon snack. Starchy veggies like potatoes and corn, and the high-fat avocado are the few produce exceptions to the Points-free list.

    Even the competition is supportive of the new strategy. "I think this is a great change," admits Lauren Slayton, a nutritionist who runs another points-based diet website, FoodTrainers.net. But when it comes to losing weight, change can be a challenge.

    "In terms of transitioning from the old plan, I would liken it to the change from PC to Mac," says Slayton. "Ultimately, the change is worthwhile-and after a couple of weeks, people will have it down."

    Check out a gallery of some of the new zero-Points foods on Weight Watchers' new PointsPlus Program.

     
     
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    813 comments

    • maria  •  Killeen, Texas  •  2 months ago
      there is a menu plan for the the 1st week, I just signed up and I would find it easier if I had a plan to go by....thanks
    • LEONARD  •  Miami, Florida  •  4 months ago
      I WOULD LIKE TO EAT MORE WEIGHT WATCHERS DINNERS, BUT THEY ARE LOADED WITH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SODIUM.
    • Cortney  •  Boston, Massachusetts  •  4 months ago
      you also really need to pay attention to soduim because that makes a big difference in the weight lost
    • pmteet  •  8 months ago
      Nobody ever got fat eating fruits and veggies. It is the other crap that will make you fat
    • Nenna  •  9 months ago
      no one gets fat off grapes!
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    • Andree  •  9 months ago
      does points means calories...it just does not make sense to eat as much fruit and it would sum up as zero points but and will certainly sum up in some calories. Fruit is rich in sugar, although healthy and unprocessed it can make you gain weight. Out of mere curiousity..how much fruit does WW allow per day and what type of fruit..
    • A Yahoo! User  •  1 year 0 months ago
      The issue I have with Weight Watchers is they do not seem to promote protein as much as they should. So the program allows people to eat " anything" as long as they stay in the points range ( which is really calorie counting). As a body builder I will tell people, to lose body fat, not just POUNDS you need to eat protein. Eating unlimited fruit is basically insane. And for those who think they are losing body fat? Wrong. Most likely, you are losing water weight or simply pounds. I am not saying Atkins is perfect, however I will say for people needing to lose body fat and learn how to eat it is a great way to live. At least you will be losing fat, not just water weight. And you can really lean out. Not to mention you are not counting every dam meal. It is a lot easier to order a small steak and double veggies and enjoy yourself than sit there and pick apart a menu or have to order some Carb filled meal to be hungry an hour later. Eat protein people. Stop paying 45 bucks a month to go be told what you can or cannot have. That is one area Weight Watchers is smart ~ people PAY to go stand on a scale and write down what they eat.
    • Kevin  •  8 months ago
      Fruits make you poop, so when you eat too many it will make you poop. I have lost 20 pounds on ww and I eat tons of fruit!
    • Nancy  •  10 months ago
      I think the most important thing to remember on any eating plan is that healthy habits are being learned. While i can't speak personally on weight watchers (because i've never done it), i think its success depends largely on the individual that's on the plan.

      Every persons body is different and responds differently to what food they take in as energy for their body. For the person that already has an overeating problem, and is not very active, the fact that fruit & veggies are 0 points could potentially still give them a "free pass" to consume more food than they really need because they can still eat a lot without going over their points. They are not learning how to satisfy their hunger in a healthy way if they are eating past the point of being full.

      On the other hand, an overweight person that decides to incorporate a good amount of physical activity into their regimen might actually require a larger amount of fruits & veggies throughout the day for energy because they are working to use the energy that the food they've consumed has provided. They may not OVER eat however, may require eating more frequently (in small portions of course).

      The bottom line is that it's great to have a guide or starting point but you are mostly responsible for your own success. Don't blindly follow any plan but rather do your research, learn healthy habits, make smart decisions about what you put into your body, and pay attention & listen to what your body is telling you. The best plan is the one that works for you.
    • steve  •  10 months ago
      Its a lifestyle change people! It doesnt matter what you eat its the quantity you eat. Weight watchers has been proven to be the ONLY diet that you actually keep the weight off. You can believe what you want to believe and keep telling yourself whatever you want but it works and I am proud of anyone who does it. Like many others have said... no one became obese eating alot of fruit. I have successfully lost 55 pounds in 5 months on weight watchers after my 2nd son and i did not gain it back. Its changing the way you eat and instead of counting calories you are counting points. ROCK ON WEIGHT WATCHERS!
      • denise 4 months ago
        Steve, It sounds like you have faith and success in WW. I have been on weight watchers for a few months now and i have been successfull in the past with it, however this time around the points plus is a little different than i'm use to. I am not lossing as much weight and i really am counting my points to a T. Im frustrated and am thinking that im eating to much food. Veggie and Fruit, cause they are 0 points, i can't think it might be. I am working out 2 days cardio and 2 days bootcamp. No weight loss in 4 week to the day . I'm so sad the scale is depressing me Maybe more protien? I need some advice.
    • Summer Bisharat  •  10 months ago
      Say you do go over your calorie intake eating veggies and fruit verses a piece of cake, it is a huge difference because your body does break down the foods differently. In one hand I think it's a cool idea because it essentially is just going to cause people to eat healthier and choose better options. There's a very high percentage of Americans who are allergic to dairy and gluten products and if they simply cut those things out would be amazed at how much more effective their bodies burned calories. So simply having less processed foods, etc. will help the body run better and burn fat more effectively.
    • Valerie  •  10 months ago
      I used to eat all fruit in H.S. to lose weight and it always worked like a charm, even if it was mostly water. Adding lots of fruit would also cut down on overall sodium count, so you would see shrinkage sooner...always an important factor on staying motivated with any healthy eating plan!
    • IM  •  10 months ago
      I've been eating fruit - as much as I want and been losing about 2 lbs per week and haven't started to exercise -SO YEAH it works! Obviously I'm not going to eat 10 bananas in one day but WW does say to try and make it 5 servings a day of fruit/veg at least. If you keep to that there is no way you are going to gain weight on grapes or apples!
    • TAD  •  10 months ago
      All I know is that my brother and sister-n-law are using the new plan and they have both lost weight and are liking the plan.
    • Susane  •  11 months ago
      It is all about what works for the individual. In regards to how many grapes, apples, etc, common sense says moderation.
    • Joyce  •  10 months ago
      I just had artery sugery and told to follow a low fat diet..I heard your program is good to follow and not stressful.I am out of work for awhile but once I go back maybe I will find a group to join with..I just wondered if I weigh 169 how many points can I have a day? Any help is appreciated..
      thank,joyce
    • Kodi10  •  10 months ago
      I have had gastric bypass, gained much of it back, so I know of weight loss and struggle. I low carbed for a long time (some limited success there), and I believe in the principles, but it was tiresome and a chore and I missed variety. Then a friend talked me into WW. I have been there for 1 month now. I have lost 7 pounds.

      In the past 7 lbs in a month would have horrified me. But now, I am thrilled. Why? Because this is finally doable. The points are working. And I do NOT pig out on Fruit. But what it does (which no one could have explained to me until I tried it), was it makes you make good choices. For example, I love, love, love fajitas. But the only way I can get them (and still eat as much as I want to) is to use chicken (lower points than beef), low carb tortillas (lower points than standard), and plenty of veggies (something I would not even have done low carbing). That is just one example of changes I make every day to the way I eat which WW has helped me make. Another would be simply, here I am at night, I have 2 points left. I really want that icecream, which is 4 points. Instead, I reach for the apple or orange or mango and I have not exceeded my points. Again, it helps me make the right choices without beating me over the head with it.. In short, if I want cake, I can have it, but I never do because I realize that it just ain't worth the cost of points.
    • George  •  11 months ago
      Just because fruit has 0 points doesn't mean you can eat 2500 calories worth of fruit. Even at 0 points, you are supposed to limit yourself on fruits because of the sugar in them.. Eating your fruit servings for the day is okay. Its better than eating something full of junk and fat...
      • Alexandra 3 months ago
        I guess...but honestly, 2500 calories is like eating almost 32 medium apples. One apple alone is pretty filling. I think that is the point. A lot of fruits have a good amount of fiber which in turn is filling. Not many people are going to eat THAT much fruit that it derails them.
    • Karen  •  11 months ago
      You are All missing the point, don't forget the "good health guidelines" which includes 5 servings of fruits and vegetables, relatively even, that means 2 of 1 and 3 of the other or just eat 3 servings of each and you'll be ok. If you eat your 29 points in fruit and vegetables, you will be lacking in others areas.
      • denise 4 months ago
        Karen. Im looking for a little advice. I havent lost any weight i a few week and i feel sad. Im wondering if im eating to much fruit and veggie and not as much of the other things that create a balance points wise. could this be true. im not eating more than 3 pieces of fruit a day but i am eating alot of veggies. I do need to figure out how much of each food group i need. i have never been a member but ive had all the stuff from them cause of my mother in law , whatever she gets she gets me the same. so i have the calculator and books and all. But i still don't know how much of each thing i can eat. Help

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