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    Would you donate your surplus embryos to stem cell research?

    Several years ago, when my son was an infant, I befriended another mother in my neighborhood. We had sons the same age, were both stay at home moms at the time, and both wanted an adult along for the ride as we pushed our babies in strollers through the park. We became friends quickly, in part because we had a lot in common. Except, interestingly, how we brought our children into the world.

    My friend tried to get pregnant for a few years, even turning to acupuncture, Chinese herbs, and other non-medical ways to make it easier to conceive. When she didn't, she turned to IVF. I've heard her recount her short but intense IVF treatment cycle many times. It wasn't easy physically, emotionally, or financially. But it worked, and as we walked, we often talked about what comes after you have a baby through fertility treatment.

    We talked about whether her insurance coverage would afford her the opportunity to have a second child (which it eventually did) and whether it was worth it to go through the rollercoaster ride of shots and hopes and scares again (which, she decided, it was). We also talked about the left over embryos.

    When you have a baby without fertility treatment, surplus embryos don't have to be considered. And so I imagine many of us who have had babies that way never do think about it. But as I walked with my friend, I quietly considered what she was pondering out loud: What could she and what would she do with the embryos she and her husband wouldn't be using?

    She wanted to donate them to science rather than pay thousands of dollars to store them or discard them completely. As a researcher herself and a believer in the possibilities of stem cell research, she said she'd feel proud to know she could contribute to scientific advancements in some small way.

    The thing is, the prestigious university hospital in our city where she had her IVF and where her surplus embryos were being stored while she made her decision about what to do with them next, had funding that stipulated it could not facilitate embryonic donations for research.

    My friend was shocked and saddened and left to make a decision with choices that felt uncomfortable. As her friend, I felt for her. As an activist, I was angry along with her. And as a mother, I was admittedly a little relieved I didn't have to make that choice myself.

    As it turned out, my friend didn't have to made the decision to discard or spend a lot of money to store surplus embryos. It took all the remaining embryos they had to have a second child. Life or circumstance or luck or whatever it was took that tough choice out of their hands and replaced it with relief and a baby girl.

    Still, I wonder how many other couples who have wanted to donate their leftover embryos and have not been able to do that have made their decisions. And as stem cell research opens up in the Obama administration, I wonder how those choices will change.

    All of this came to mind this morning as I read this editorial piece in the New York Times, in which the opinion is voiced that Obama and the National Institutes of Health should consider many avenues for stem cell research. This, the author says, would include but move beyond stem cells from surplus embryos to new research methods that gather or replicate stem cells from adults with the disease being studied and from skin samples. One of these methods has never been tried before. (Here is a great graph that breaks down the differences).

    As the door opens to more -- and now federally funded -- stem cell research, there are clearly many questions to be explored. I am looking forward to reading and understanding more about the scientific merit and implications of these different kinds of research. And I am also curious how this will impact the men and women who've already gone to such great lengths to conceive, and are now in the middle of a scientific stem cell controversy by virtue of having unused embryos.

    I am sure there are many diverse experiences and opinions out there, so tell me what I don't know as a mom who didn't have to go there:

    Have you had to make a decision about donating, destroying, or storing your own surplus embryos?

    What do you think about donating surplus embryos for the advance of stem cell research?


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    75 comments

    • Abhijeet  •  2 years 6 months ago
      Dear Mam, We are couple from Kolkata, India. We are going through a very bad time recently. My wife (age 29yrs) suffered with Endometriosis and Hydroselpinx, had a laparoscopy 2 months back, and now the doctor says that she cannot become mother without doing IVF as her left ovary and right fallopian tube has been removed from her body. But we do not have sufficient money to go for an IVF. We can feel the pain of not having baby. We would surly like to donate embryo to any research lab. Please feel free to contact.
    • Audrey  •  3 years 2 months ago
      As soon as a person uses Pre World War Germany they lost me because they are obviously extremist. No one is talking about getting rid of people that are handicap. Scare tactics

      The Aztec comment made me laugh too, “At least the Aztecs only sacrificed fully developed babies (after they were born) to their "god". Yah because being born and developing into a full baby and then being tortured is so much better.

      Absolutely I would donate my embryos. What else would we do with them throw them into a biowaste bin or keep them frozen forever.
    • Audrey  •  3 years 2 months ago
      Momahedger, you are right. We use life for research all the time. But some of these nut jobs do not believe that animals have souls so it does not count. We all count, but for me a stem cell is not the same as a finished product, dog or cat.
    • sam  •  3 years 2 months ago
      A few of the websites I used:
      Findlaw.com
      Mayoclinic.com
      Stemcells.nih.gov
      Knowledge is power. Don't trust hearsay, chain email, and (for the most part) television news. Research important issues yourself.
    • kay  •  3 years 2 months ago
      embryonic stem cells are cells that have not yet become anything. they are harvested long before the embryo ever becomes a fetus because once the embryo becomes a fetus, most of the cells are no longer stem cells.

      i thought i would mention this because some posters seem to think that they are taken from fetuses.

      and personally, i would want to donate my extra embryos rather than have them thrown out.
    • Sophie_Phoenix  •  3 years 2 months ago
      I'm not sure how I feel about IVF overall. We're scientifically creating more babies in a world that's overflowing with one's who are already here and need loving homes. I have a friend who's dealing with infertility, and I myself am having some issues, so I can understand the extreme desire to have a baby that is a mix if myself and my husband. However, I guess I feel that if I can't get pregnant naturally, then perhaps the universe is trying to tell me that I am meant to adopt.

      If by some chance I would go to the extreme and try IVF, I think I would donate my eggs to people who are also struggling to conceive. If any of those were successful, then it would show me that I served my purpose in that situation well. And someday, I would hope to meet them.

      I am pro-life, but feel that people make their own choices (sounds odd, I know), and I would have a hard time passing the embryos on to science. Could it be said that the life purpose of those embryos was to advance science? Perhaps. But I have a hard time not seeing them as future men and women.

      The people who say that unsuccessful IVF is the same as abortion are nuts. Would you say a miscarriage is the same as well? There's a big difference between something naturally happening that's out of your control (non planting eggs, miscarriage), to doing something intentionally (abortion).
    • Motherof'emall  •  3 years 2 months ago
      I have a handicapped daughter with a spinal cord injury and I would never use technology derived from this ghoulish manner. I would never donate any of my children for experiment, and once you have been pregnant you know it is life and it is wrong to do something like this. I know many people will say that I am judgmental and that it's a "waste" but children who are conceived in this manner are still children and you would never allow someone to harm your newborn, 1, 2 year old etc., so why the most tiny and defenseless? There are just some places we shouldn't go, and just because we can, doesn't make it right. It reminds me of when Germany first started getting rid of the handicapped, imperfect children, and look what it progressed into. I think all women need to stop and think about what they are doing and what we have become.
    • Moma  •  3 years 2 months ago
      I have to look at it this way:

      if the choice that my husband and I had was to
      a. store them to the timelimit and then destroy them
      b. allow them to be used in a national ebryo adoption bank
      c.donate to research
      d use all of them in another attempt with the risk of multiple births

      my choice would narrow down to b and c. and since we do not have a national embryo adoption bank,then we would donate to science.

      I find it very strange that people do not normally think of the animals that are used in science (not that I am against that if it is done for good reasons and as humanely as it can be done) but bring a human embryo into the picture and many scream about it being life. life is life. all life has the divine spark as it was created by God. therefore, it would put all research to a full stop. and then where would we be?

      human embryos are not any more important to the colts of horses that are kept pregnant (and then the foals are killed or sent to a meat packing plant for overseas shipping) for female hormones. One type of life for another is not what I believe that God wants.

      but what it comes down to is science for worthy results. to me it comes up to the conscience of each person. as I said, I would choose b first and then c. would never choose for the embryos to be kept indefinitely (how is that "life") or to be destroyed for financial reasons.
    • sam  •  3 years 2 months ago
      You have a perfectly valid right to disapprove of stem cell research for religious/ethical reasons and I am not questioning that. However, it is important that you not represent your opinion as fact unless you can back it up with reliable sources. So far, I am enjoying the exchange of ideas here and can appreciate the array of valid opinions expressed. Everyone's thoughts matter, whether you come from a scientific background or not.
    • the truth  •  3 years 2 months ago
      I would donate my embryos. You know I have a question, how can an embryo be considered a true human life if you can freeze them and then unfreeze them successfully? Science/medicine can't freeze, store, and unfreeze adult or child humans, so why do some people consider embryos to be life like you and me? (idea taken from Bill Mahr). Also, I just wanted to say that there are a lot of people out there who are very selective about who or what they think should live and die. There are a lot of hypocrites out there.
    • ♥sunshinelady♥  •  3 years 2 months ago
      From what I understand, this research has had a zero success rate . It is destruction of human life for no good reason. They have had good results with adult stem cell research.
    • Katherine  •  3 years 2 months ago
      I would do it. I want too actually. Does anyone know of a good website to go through with this?
    • Milla.  •  3 years 2 months ago
      I really cant believe the support for embryonic research. Especially from woman who wanted to bring life into their world so badly they would turn to IVF. Regardless of cost why can you not create the embryo's as needed so there are no extra lives to be 'discarded' or used as labrats.
    • dresmommy  •  3 years 2 months ago
      I would totally do it..
    • Khilasa  •  3 years 2 months ago
      Maybe WendyG could use the proceeds to go back to school and work on her writing skills (or lack thereof).

      Anyway, if I were in that situation, I would donate my unused embryos. It's either destroy them or pay to store them indefinitely, which would get costly over time. So why not donate? I don't mind helping a cause that's much bigger than myself.
    • XOXO48  •  3 years 2 months ago
      Milla- Many embryos are usually lost through IVF however because they are wanted in the first place no one seems to see this as a bad thing. If you really think about it, the lost of life is greater for IVF than abortion if you add up all the people who have had IVF and how many embryos they lost before they had 1 that made it.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  3 years 2 months ago
      Why donate your embryos, just for someone to later kill a baby?
    • Ken  •  3 years 2 months ago
      I am in this situation. I have four fertilized embryos stored at a cost. I am on the fence whether or not to try again since it didn't work the first time and I am not sure what to do with the embryos. They make you fill out paperwork when you go through the process of IVF that discusses what your choices are if a spouse dies, divorce, many things. Then they ask what you want to do with the embryos if any of these situations arise. My doctor had the choice for research on the checklist.
    • Jumble  •  3 years 2 months ago
      I never understood why people who do IVF don't just adopt. The cost and effort is about the same, you're not messing around with a bunch medical stuff, there is no moral grey area and you don't even have to give birth. If you're in a position to do IVF and you don't adopt, I think you're selfish. There. I said it.
    • sam  •  3 years 2 months ago
      Oohay, can you provide a specific source for the information you provided on stem cell extraction?

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