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    Lessons in Dating: Don't Date a Male Stripper!

    I became a single mom at 22. I quickly learned that the dating world I had just entered was light years away my teenage years, when I had last been single. I decided I needed some sort of guidelines to follow; a sort of roadmap, which of course didn't exist in the Geography section (or self-help section) of Barnes & Noble. So I charted my own course, starting with two general rules: No relationships for 6 months, and Dates only on the nights I didn't have my son.

    More Rules...

    There have been more rules added to the list as the years have gone by. There are many that any woman entering the dating scene will figure out on her own: meet a blind date in public, a man that respects you won't try to sleep with you on the first date, and never introduce your children to a man you aren't sure you will have a future with.

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    Laugh at Yourself

    What you won't read in dating advice columns are the hard lessons to learn, the ones you are embarrassed to share with others. I live with the belief that if you can't laugh at your past, then it is hard to have hope for the future. In light of that, I will share with you the embarrassing lessons I have learned as a dating, single mama.

    Never Date a Male Stripper

    Go ahead and laugh. In hindsight, it seems so silly that I thought even casually dating this man would not end badly. But as a 22 year old who was still uncomfortable with her mom-body and fresh on the dating scene, I was easy prey. All it took was one pass of his hand across my shoulders and a compliment about what great hair I had, and I was giving him my number. I should have known that drinks we had in clubs before his shows were not actual dates, and that putting me on the VIP list for the All Male Revue was not romance. I should have realized that if a man is living with his ex-girlfriend because they are still really good friends, then she probably isn't an "ex" just yet. Thankfully his girlfriend was a bit of a snoop and alerted me of her girlfriend status before things got anywhere close to serious. But lesson learned…a man that shaves his chest and stuffs his Speedo is probably incredibly comfortable lying about other things.

    The Package Does Matter

    Not that package, the whole package. The attitude, the smile, the hair, the clothes, the shoes - the package. Specifically the shoes. Out with some friends on a New Year's Eve, I had met a cute boy and we shared a sweet midnight kiss. We exchanged numbers that night, and as promised, he called the next day. He offered to pick me up and take me out to dinner. Things were starting off as they should, I was very pleased! Imagine my surprise when he walked through my front door with duct tape wrapped around his shoes. Silver, belongs-in-the-garage, duct tape! I was perplexed. I had to ask about it, of course I did. They were his favorite shoes, yes they were still in production, and he just didn't want to spend the money on a new pair of shoes. I couldn't go out with a man who had duct tape holding his shoes together! If he couldn't spring for a hole-free pair of shoes, what kind of restaurant was in store for me? I offered him a drink to buy some time while I figured out how to get out of this. While drinking his beer, he got gassy. There was no apologizing and excusing himself, he just kept talking through it, like I wasn't even noticing it! I was mortified. Thankfully Mother Nature came to my rescue and the power went out. I told him that I was so sorry, but I had to go keep a friend company during the outage.

    Moral of the Story

    Moral of the story, ladies: If a man like Duct Tape Jeff doesn't care enough about the whole package, then he is not going to be the kind of man who has the courtesy to step into the bathroom to excuse himself when flatulence hits! He is definitely not the kind of man you want as an influence on your children!

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    Single Moms Scare Off Family-Focused Men

    I will preface this with saying that there are some exceptions to this rule. But I found that nine times out of ten men thought that since I already had a child that I didn't want more. Wonderful men, who would make great husbands and fathers to future children, would fail to ask if I wanted more children and would go on their merry way looking for a great woman whose womb had never carried a child. Men wouldn't approach the subject with me, but instead just stop calling. Weeks later I would inevitably find out through the grapevine that the "kid issue" is what scared them off.

    Men are Not Simple

    I used to think that the fact that I had a child is what it was, but it was the thought that I didn't want more. But they won't just come out and ask you. Men aren't that simple. Single moms have to find a way to tell a man, without sounding like a needy, psychotic, baby machine, that they are open to having more children some day. It isn't always easy, and at time seems utterly impossible, but if you have found a good man, the conversation will happen in a way that makes you sound completely sane and not like Octomom.

    Sometimes You Have to Say It

    One of the first men I dated after leaving my son's father was a guy who worked in the same office building as I did. It was a pretty casual thing, but he was a great guy. We had a lot of fun together, he respected that I had a child I was devoted to, and he had his own life as well. We dated off and on for a few months, and then things kind of just tapered off as they sometimes naturally do. One night I was out with a girlfriend, and ran into this man and a friend of his at a bar. He and I went to grab a drink together and while talking I realized that this man obviously liked me. Not necessarily in a be-with-you-forever way, but there was a bit of something there. I got angry that he had let things sizzle out if he liked me. And I told him as much. My exact words were, "You know, the next time you like a girl, you really should let her know!" To which he came right back at me with, "And the next time you like a guy, you really should let him know!"

    He was Right!

    He was completely right, and I was completely mortified. Somehow it had never occurred to me that we live in the 21st Century, and I am a smart woman who is certainly capable of telling a man that I like him. I have never forgotten that lesson. I know that there are still a lot of women out there who want to be swept off of their feet and romanced. I love that too. But men have egos and pride and if they went around sweeping every woman they liked off of her feet, they would surely end up embarrassed a lot. Help him out a little. Let the guy you like know that you like him. Encourage him to sweep you off of your feet.

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    A few closing reminders:

    If a man says he can understand why his dad cheated on his own mom, run. If a man has a shrine in his living room to his late wife, he is not ready to date. If one of the first texts you get from a man is a picture of a body part that isn't his face, then the only direction he sees the relationship going is horizontal. And just to reiterate, never, ever trust a man who takes off his clothes for living!

    About the author:

    Brooke Billings is a single mom of an awesome 9 year old boy navigating the worlds of parenthood, dating and writing. Brooke is the editor of Single Parent magazine, and co-founder of ModernSingleParents.net, a revolutionary new social network for single parents. Brooke is also a featured expert writer on multiple single parent websites.You can contact Brooke at: bbillings@singleparentmedia.com, and follower her on twitter @brookeb4

    Article published by ModernMom.com

     

    50 comments

    • Rubi  •  1 year 11 months ago
      because girls want to have fun!!! and is ok for girls to go to strip bars just like guys do. but...for my own experience, i agree about not dating a stripper...or end un marrying one... like i did. and ended up divorced 12 years later. once a stripper always a stripper in other ways.
    • Incoqnegro  •  1 year 11 months ago
      I guess I have to chime in, I AGREE WITH SOME OF WHAT FRED "MEANS". With that said, Fred, you are as bad as most of the women here and on other comment post who are self righteous, and impose their views on others. I am truly hoping that the underling current of Fred's argument ( as well as NewBeginning's) is that if the situation were reversed most of the women here would be tending towards call the the guy a dawg, and irresponsible. Let's get to the nitty gritty. Most of you are so far off base it's funny. Dating doesn't change a lot because you have children. Be responsible, you may meet a nice person ANYWHERE. If a person decides to go to a strip club (btw not my cup o tea) who cares, if the person is a stripper, who cares, you can meet knuckleheads in church too. The odds are not in your favor that you will meet a typical ideal person in bars club etc.. However it can happen. How you ask? easy, follow the same rules you should be following anyway, no matter where you meet someone. The guy or girl at the bar or strip club throwing themselves and their cash at the help, is not the one most of you want, duh. Evaluate the person, have a conversation, if you meet up have a meal, and evaluate some more. Sex is ok whenever. If a women holds out too long I got bored and moved on, it's no fun chasing something that is on a stick and being jerked away. If she has sex with you on the second or third date that doesn't make her a w---- safe sex is OK. For all of you guys shaking your heads, consider the fact that a w---- can and will have sex with other people while making the person that he/she likes wait because it's the socially acceptable thing to do. Now where's your theory ? A little aside, you guys are like people who want more gun laws for gun control forgetting that the definition of criminal is a person who breaks the law. The definition of w---- is person who sleeps around. Why wouldn't he/she make you wait and be getting it somewhere else. TOM, you seem to have gotten IT.
      I btw, played around safely, I had no kids, no responsibility, a good job and I had fun for years. I wasn't interested in commitment, I dated all types of women, I NEVER FOUND THE ONE. I unlike others didn't settle, kept it moving. I didn't say I love you to get into women's pants, they'll let you do that anyway if you're nice. I didn't call the girlfriend's I was honest they knew the deal. When I hit 31, I struck gold...single mom, of a 4 yr old. The truth is that men/women with children can be scary for all of the reason's that have been stated here. However, common sense should never take a back seat. Single moms have issues. People have issues. I like the women I found, I settled down, didn't settle. She was worried about my obvious commitment thing, I wasn't, if she was right I would be there. We dated, we committed, her son, well I got lucky, I got in early so I am the father figure. Btw that is the really tough part. When you date a single parent you are starting 2 relationships. It's hard because you must work at both if you it to work. I started with my girlfriend, 5 yrs now. As she opened up and after a few months introduced me formally to her son I worked hard on my relationship with him. I know I went on a bit, but use it as a common sense guide. Just because the author went out and did what she wanted when she didn't have her son...doesn't make her a bad person. Dating hasn't changed no matter where you meet the person. Heck the BTK killer worked at a church.....Stop being so quick to condemn
    • Runa  •  1 year 11 months ago
      You know, I don't think anyone has brought up the issue that a single mom might be a widow, even if she is young. An old friend of mine just turned twenty, was married in early spring, and is now pregnant with her and her husband's first child. Her husband is military. If (God forbid) something happens to him, does it show that she is easy or that she can't commit or that she doesn't know how to measure a man because she would be a mother without the child's father in the picture?

      Though I know I can't change how guys act, I would beg them to give a single mother a chance to explain how they got into that situation instead of running at the words "single mom."
    • FredN  •  2 years 1 month ago
      Rae: You're the loser for insisting on men to date single moms. There is absolutely no reason to take the risk. The man becomes the chump, another word for a male loser.

      I'm better for keeping my standards high, which come to think of it, is a minor step up. Not dating a single mom means at least I'll date a childless skank. LOL!!! Okay, maybe I'll aim much higher than that.
    • Charles  •  2 years 1 month ago
      So, it's fine to be judgmental about men, but verboten to judge women?

      The women in this comments thread are really sexist idiots.
    • Haterz everywhere wego  •  2 years 1 month ago
      hahahahahaah lmfao
      dats really SEXY
    • JD  •  2 years 1 month ago
      The best way to not be an often rejected single mom?

      Don't be a single mom.
      Seriously, who would wish this on themselves? The lives of single mothers truly suck. It's expensive, you end up on all the entitlements and still just barely get by trying to work and pay for a sitter. You rarely have any money to date and this all get's tiring really fast, so what do you end up doing? You rush into the next relationship for the security more than anything without really realizing it only to end up with an atrocious D-bag.
      All too often single mothers end up this way because they get married, have a few kids, then decide to end their marriage because they feel that the relationship has gotten stale, the guy doesn't "love them enough", etc etc. and they end up as another of these 20 or 30 something "walk away wives". Let's face reality here. Most of the time it is the woman leaving the man. That's the truth. Accept it for what it is. And most of the time these young women end up realizing years down the road, after 3 failed marriages or more that they never should have left their first husbands, and that they primarily did so for selfish reasons and because they had low self esteem.
      This is not to say that some marriages fail for legitimate reasons, or because someone dies, but for the most part...that is simply NOT the case ladies, and you all know it.
    • NewBeginnings  •  2 years 1 month ago
      wait... why, as a mother, were you in a skank strip club and hitting on a stripper?
    • JenniferR  •  2 years 1 month ago
      Agreed, Krista! Mom's should be able to have fun too. And maybe she met him in a bar, or at the gym, or whatever! Don't be so judgemental, "NewBeginnings". This article is great and has some good advice. It is easy not to see things when you are interested in someone and all the excitement blinds some of your judgement. Luckily I am past the dating phase but this would have been helpful years ago. :)
    • DonaldM  •  2 years 1 month ago
      When you have a friend say "He's a gem" remember that the Yiddish for gem is schmuck.
    • Minty Me  •  2 years 1 month ago
      "a 22 year old who was still uncomfortable with her mom-body and fresh on the dating scene, was easy prey" and was looking for the whole package, which amounts to "attitude, the smile, the hair, the clothes, the shoes." Hm... let's try a strip club!
    • Eric Ericson  •  2 years 1 month ago
      Oh, give her a break, she was 22. Save the indignation for the parenting blogs.
    • NewBeginnings  •  2 years 1 month ago
      I'm not being judgmental, I just don't get it.

      If this was a 22 year old father who was out at strip clubs while baby was at home, everyone on Shine would be saying how gross and irresponsible and childish he was.... and that the mom should dump him.

      But a mom of a newborn hanging out at strip joints is "having fun". When you choose to become a parent, as I did at the age of 21, you leave childish ways behind you. I did not feel that my social life was lacking going out dinner with friends, going out to a movie, etc.

      Besides, no one looks for relationship material at strip clubs... that's not an appropriate "dating scene" for a mom (or really anyone for that matter)... which the author said she was looking for. So, I'm just confused.
    • Edward  •  2 years 1 month ago
      Brooke,

      Speaking as a man, your explanation of why men choose not to pursue single moms strikes me as unlikely.

      Back in the day, I avoided single moms because I had no intention of ever taking care of their children. And I was not about to let a child develop any affection for me fully knowing that I would probably not stick around. It did not seem fair.

      Not once in my life have I ever heard a guy worry that a woman might not want additional children. To the contrary, most single men I've known assume that single moms are looking for someone to take on the role of father to their children.

      Ed
    • Mauna  •  2 years 1 month ago
      Yeah, that is for sure, these kind of males should only be dating their OWN KIND of peoples....the female strippers to prostitutes, to the realm of Pornography doers, to High Society Call girls...the ones who are just strange to begin with...
    • Nikki  •  2 years 1 month ago
      Im 23 ( no kids), but friends of mine do. There was a male review at a bar that one of my clients worked at. So just for a laugh we went. I had never been and neither did most of the women in my office who also decided to go (all of whom are mothers). The women in the audience were mainly 30-late 40's, wives & mothers. I dont see anything wrong with having a girls night with cocktails and a good laugh. Besides male reviews are NOTHING like strip clubs!! The're more funny and performance than anything.
      Anyways~ I absolutly agree on the "No dating stippers" rule because it just so happened that at the time of attending that male review i was also recently single and 22. One of the male "dancers" kept approaching me all night, i finally agreed to have a drink with him after the show, and he was actually an intelligent guy with whom i had great conversations with. We hung out a couple of times after that ( nothing past kissing ever accured). Like i said we did have really good conversation, and i guess he felt he could open up to me about his past. Well bad idea because turns out he was a porn star!!!! After hearing that i could never EVER see myslef going any further than the "friend-Zone". Too bad because he was REALLY HOTT!!! Younger Vin Diesle-ish with the Bod down to a T.
    • Kirsten G  •  2 years 1 month ago
      Why should she have to wait until her kid is 18 to date?? That's ridiculous. Women who put their kids first at all times don't end up being great mom's, they end up being crazy, controlling women who try to live through their children. And she already said she didn't go out on dates on nights she had her kid, which means she might have an ex-husband or relative who wants to take her child some nights. So she's not dumping her kid on someone and running off to clubs. Doesn't anybody here know how to read? I thought this story was funny and a little educational.
    • JD  •  2 years 1 month ago
      As an aside most of these walk away wives also had at least 1 or 2 affairs before leaving their young husbands.
      I'm 37 years old and have seen this literally dozens of times in my life with friends of mine, and friends of friends. The general trend anymore also seems to be that these young women are more than willing to walk away from their children as well and leave the husband with the kids, their lives in shambles, all so that they can prove to themselves that they are still young hotties who can get a guy to pay attention to them and make them feel wanted. If they could somehow look past their own low self esteem for a moment and see that the problem is their own perception and not that their husband isn't good enough for them, perhaps alot more marriages would remain intact.
    • Willis  •  2 years 1 month ago
      Personally, what scares me away from single mom's isn't that I think they don't want to have more, it's the added baggage and BS that is inevitably accompanied by it. I don't want to deal with that thanks. It's hard enough to get to know a single, childless woman, much less one who will (understandably, yet still frustratingly) put you second on her priority list.
    • Krista  •  2 years 1 month ago
      Oh, for god's sake. Give her a break. It's not like she hired an escort. Can't moms have fun, too?

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