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    Should a Woman Ever Propose to a Man?

    By McLean Robbins, GalTime.com

    A woman dreams of the day when that special someone sinks to one knee, looks them lovingly in the eyes and utters those four magical words, "Will you marry me?"

    But in today's glass-ceiling breaking, two-income household holding, Mr. Moms-are-totally-cool day and age, is this notion a bit antiquated? Has the women's liberation movement come so far that we can now propose our own version of happily ever after?

    Our initial reaction after being presented with this topic was a resounding "heck no," but naturally, more exploration was necessary. So we queried leading relationship experts, lawyers, dating coaches and wedding professionals to get their opinions.

    We'll warn you - there's no concrete answer, but our industry experts did come up with some valuable arguments for and against the issue.


    TRADITIONALISTS SAY 'NO WAY

    Tasha, a love coach who appeared on VH1's Secrets of Aspen, says that when a woman proposes to a man, she castrates him. "When you take the proposal away [from the man], you cut off their ability to make you [the woman] the happiest you could be."

    "If you're putting the best product you have out there, you will capture your rational mate [without proposing] rather than drag him [to the altar]," says Constance Dunn, M.A. etiquette specialist and author of Practical Glamour. "And this is coming from a card-carrying feminist!"

    "It's all about perceived mate value," she says. "Sure, you might be able to drag some dude to the altar, but he's always going to wonder if he could have done better." "If something is readily available, it isn't as valued...look at the success of the Birkin bag wait list."

    Letting a man take charge isn't about letting go of your own self or conceding that he has more power in the relationship, says Tasha. It's about allowing the person you love to make a grand gesture.

    "There's something important about that ritual of a man making that commitment to a woman," Dunn says. But, she admits, women have the ultimate power - saying yes or no.

    Dunn agrees that as society continues to evolve, the idea of women proposing may become both psychologically and socially more acceptable. "But it's only been a few decades … we aren't there yet."

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    MODERATES SAY 'YOU'RE DOING IT EVERY DAY'

    Laurie Puhn, lawyer, couples mediator and author of the national bestsellerFight Less, Love More: Five Minute Conversations to Change Your Relationship Without Blowing Up or Giving In says that women "propose" to men every day - they just don't call it that. "It's called an ultimatum."

    "The reality is that women initiate probably over fifty percent of the 'are we in this for the long haul' conversations," says Puhn. This gives the man the information he needs to know that when he asks you to marry him, he's assured you'll say yes.

    Of course, Puhn cautions, conversations of that nature should not be brought up lightly. But if you're nearing or over 30 and have been seriously dating for six months or more … it's natural and fine for a woman to want to bring up the topic.

    A huge number of changes in relationships, for good and for bad, come about as a result of women initiating, poking, prodding, and setting time frames, she says. The issue isn't necessarily what one says, but how they phrase it. Relationship discussions of any nature won't be successful if phrased as "you'd better do it," she says. Women who feel the need to issue proposals - of the mini or major variety - need to know before speaking what they are and aren't comfortable with … and how to walk away if they don't get the answer they need.

    "You're never too young to value your time." If you want to make sure you're giving yourself ample opportunity to meet Mr. Right before you have to meet Mr. Right, that's the outlook to have, says Puhn.

    While this type of proposal isn't "fun or exciting," it's the reality of many relationships today.

    And, if a woman wants to get down on one knee and ultimately do the proposing, Puhn is fine with that - so long as she has the confidence and guts to "make that the story [you tell your grandkids]."

    But will it ever become commonplace? No. "When we get to the male birth control pill, you can talk to me about a woman proposing."

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    PROGRESSIVES SAY 'GO FOR IT...SELECTIVELY'

    In the Old World where civility is king, the man should always make the moves," says Paul A. Falzone, CEO of eLove, a dating and matchmaking service with a three-decade history. "But now we're in 2011 and the world has evolved quite a bit. If a guy can take a woman's assertiveness, God bless her; let her run."

    Of course, he says, this type of forward thinking need require a certain type of man. If your sweetheart is a traditionalist, a subtler hint might be the better route. But, as Falzone cautions, "at the stage in the game where you're getting down and proposing, choice shouldn't really be in the game. You should have it pretty nailed down by then."

    In other words, are you damn sure he'll say yes? For some women, it's about taking life into their own hands and being the master of their own destiny. "You're the most important person in your life and you've got to look at yourself and think, what's best for me?"

    If the answer is marriage and your relationship and timing are right, a proposal might be the way to go.

    If you're determined to do the asking, make sure you're planning a proposal the man would enjoy, says Sandra Aaron, owner of Mindless Sophistication Events in Toronto, Canada. "This isn't the moment for a female's fantasy proposal. This is the moment to make him feel appreciated."

    Sometimes, Falzone says, men need a god kick in the pants. Just remember, he cautions, that one should make sure they're doing it for the right reasons - that they're truly ready to get married.

    What about you? Would you propose to your sweetheart, and under what circumstances?

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    40 comments

    • Luis  •  1 year 4 months ago
      i'm in favor of a woman proposing.. it's my dream for a woman to ask me to marry them..but than again ill be waiting a life time..
    • Superfreak  •  1 year 4 months ago
      I am old fasion in this area as well. However, my daughter in-law proposed to my son. She set it up to ask him in front of me and a few other family memebers at a wrestling event during intermission. The two of them were called to the ring and she got on one knee and asked him. He was so shocked but delighted.( This was a televised event by the way). I asked my son later how he felt about her doing it first, he said it was okay with it. He had it planned to do it a few months later. All is good, they were married and are very happy. So as long as the couple is comfortable and confident in thier love I guess it's to each is own right?
    • kc  •  1 year 4 months ago
      me too
    • Kiki  •  1 year 4 months ago
      I fail to see how all my friends that left out copies of catalogs with engagement rings for their boyfriends to see, handed out ultimatums, and/or told their boyfriends to propose to them went a better route than I did. I proposed to my now husband of 6.5 years - I did it without a ring for him and without an expectation of a ring, or even knowing if he'd say "yes." We'd always said that we would never get married. I would not change a thing, and my hubby is thankfully wnough of a man that he was not threatened or castrated by my proposal. I feel really sorry for all the women out there that tell their boyfriends that proposing is their job (like taking out the trash or emptying the litter box) or who are too scared that they might be rejected...or who have a man around that is that easy to castrate.
    • Nihon  •  1 year 4 months ago
      I liked the bit in the last part about how if the woman proposes, it shouldn't be a woman's proposal fantasy. I think that's the most important take home message. If a woman is going to do the proposing, she should keep in mind who it is she is proposing to: the moment should be about the person being asked, not the person doing the asking. That being said, I don't think the get-on-one-knee traditional kind of proposal will work with a lot of guys, but if you can be creative and tailor your proposal, I'm sure it would work!

      I mean, really, if you're a modern woman all for female-lead-proposals, but you're with a guy who would feel emasculated by such an act, I fear a lot of bumps on the road ahead...
    • Leroy  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Brenda, I'm sorry about your situation. I believe that a lot of people who say that want to enjoy the benefits of marriage without the responsibility or commitment that comes with it. Commitment in this sense encompasses both the legal AND moral obligations that accompany marital vows. I think some people (men especially) may fear some very significant and tangible losses in the event the marriage doesn't last. That may be another factor for SOME who say they will never marry.

      Your view on marriage is obviously not the same as his, so why not free yourself from this relationship and make yourself available to someone who shares your values and who wants the same thing you do? I realize it's a bitter pill to swallow, but consider your other most obvious option which is "settling."

      No one should just "settle" when it comes to long-term relationships. It will likely only lead to later resentment and misery.
    • Leroy  •  1 year 4 months ago
      PS: As long as he's getting the benefits without the commitment, why WOULD he change his mind? I'm just being pragmatic here, but what exactly would he stand to gain that he's not already getting?
    • Brenda  •  1 year 4 months ago
      I would love to get married -- I am 37 and my boyfriend is 53. He was married once and I have never been married. I have 2 boys that are 14 & 18. He has a son that is 19. We don't live together, but we might as well as we are never apart except for our jobs. He knows I want to get married, however, he has told me that he will never move in and he will never marry me (because he claims that he is not the marrying type). For Christmas he bought me a white gold ring with 6 small diamonds in it and 2 medium sized Alexandrite stones (which are my birthstones). The ring is absolutely beautiful. He claims I am the most important person in his life and that is why he bought the ring for me. His mother saw it at Christmas and now thinks we are engaged, however, he has never told her any different. Do you think he will ever change his mind about marriage?? His view on marriage is that all it is - is a piece of paper showing ownership and that is all. Just curious as to how long someone would settle for this type of commitment?
    • Liz  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Notice I did not specifically say a woman would have to get a diamond ring for her man. Just that she would have to get something that showed her commitment. Some believe the ring is a symbol of love and commitment and would not accept the proposal without one. There are women who would still say yes. What I am saying is if we were to apply the cultural standard to women proposing as we do to men as a society, it would be more equal in expectation.
    • patti  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Maybe I am old school, or just a plain mushy romantic. But I say no a woman should not propose to her guy. I think it is tacky. Some women might think it is okay, that is fine, that is there choice. Just not something I would do.
    • lfajslfjdsl  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Um, not every woman dreams of the day a guy will get on his knee and propose to her. This article made women out to be all marriage-obsessed. I think if a woman wants to propose, then go for it. If a guy is dating a non-traditionalist woman like that, her proposal shouldn't come as a big shocker. As for making him feel castrated, I wouldn't want to date a guy that was that insecure in his masculinity. There are so many stupid rules people make up for dating and marriage, but what it really comes down to is whether you love somebody or not. Love is all you need for a successful relationship and marriage. You do not need society's rules or approval.
    • Patricia  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Well... I did it and I got rejected. He didn't say NO but he just kept quiet... pretty much the same, isnt it?? Now I know where I'm standing on and can take it from here.
    • LAT  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Wow, this seems so absurd in general. Why does it matter who proposes to whom? It doesn't. If a couple is in love and committed, then either party should be able to pop the question without being criticized.

      Almost seven years ago, I asked my then boyfriend to marry me and even had a ring for him. He said absolutely. We got married two months later. Six months after we got married, he got down on one knee, pulled out a diamond solitaire, and asked me to spend the rest of my life with him. I of course accepted. It has been six years since we got married and we are happier than ever. Just goes to show if it is right for both parties, it does not matter who proposes.
    • Byron F  •  1 year 4 months ago
      I think that when a woman is ready for marriage it should not matter who proposes first. If a man is threatened by his woman taking the lead in this situation he should end the relationship because it is obvious that he isn't adult enough to be the head of a household.

      I also think that a man in that situation would be flattered, because he knows that his girlfriends intentions are serious. I know if I were in a situation like that I would be extremely flattered and ready to take the relationship to the next level.

      It doesn't make you less of a man for being the one getting proposed to in fact this is actually a position of power and you should be gracious and respectful of your potential mates feelings. Even if you are not ready for marriage be polite enough to let your potential mate down easily, because it is obvious how they felt about you.

      As time moves on the idea of traditional roles in society are going to change and I think that this role is going to evolve also. It shouldn't matter who popped the question what matters is how that question is answered.
    • babykittennc  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Not no but hell no!
    • Mari  •  1 year 4 months ago
      I asked my husband, well more grabbed him by the collar while I was waffling between buzzed and drunk and asked/told him we should get married. We were engaged for alomst year and he got down on one knee right before we got married (earlier than our original date because of 9-11 long story he is military and...well long story) and he asked me with my wedding ring (b/c my engagement ring was stuck in a safe in the basement of the artist who made it, the safe had previously been on the second floor...another long story) We've been married almost 10 years. When we were dating he was still getting over a really bad, very brief first marriage and had a ton of baggage. If I had waited for him to ask I think we would have been married by the same time but engaged for less time.
    • Theresa K  •  1 year 4 months ago
      For the person who asked how a woman would do it--I have a friend who proposed and she set the mood very romantically. She bought a VERY nice watch and put it around her ankle. While lying across the bed with her legs crossed she just bounced her foot up and down. When he noticed it she just asked him.

      But on another note, it has been two years and he still isn't ready!!! Needless to say, it has ended.

      So, from that I would agree with those who say let the man propose--that way you KNOW he is ready. Amanda, you are engaged, but for how long? How long before he decides he is ready? An engagement over two years is pointelss in my book. If a proposal is made you should be ready today!! You don't propose with the pretense that you are getting to that point of readiness.
    • Leroy  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Thank you, Liz. I couldn't have said it better.
    • Theresa K  •  1 year 4 months ago
      BTW, I asked my boyfriend about it and he said he wold be flattered. I told him don't get any ideas because I won't be proposing--that's your job!!! LMAO
    • Liz  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Sa,also, would the woman be required to dish out a ton of money for a symbol of her love? There are many women (as seen on the Shine article about accepting proposals without rings) who would not take their man seriously unless he shelled out a ring. It is only fair to accept the same amount of seriousness from a proposing woman. Of course,this is if our social expectations change about men and women. Right now there are some women who want equality until it interferes with them reaping social benefits.Such as not paying on a first date,getting a ring:and being able to joke about raping a man.

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