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    What Makes Someone "Dating Material"?

    Celine Dion Movehttp://backtorockville.typepad.com/back_to_rockville/2009/01/review-celine-dion.htmlDue to my lack of networking with women, I've painted myself as "non-dating" material. I didn't think anything made one guy more "dateable" than another. I figured there was someone out there for everyone, and I'd just keep acting like myself until I found someone I meshed with.

    In my opinion, the best chance to meet someone is through a friend. In all of my friendship circles, I've been labeled as "undateable". So, now I'm trying to figure out just what dating material is.

    I'm "undateable" because:

    I Like To Be The Center of Attention

    When we are out, I tend to dominate conversation and tell outlandish stories. I'm not rude about it, but it certainly alters the dynamic of groups and couples. That person at the center of attention can be intimidating or they put off those women who like to be the center of attention. By dominating the conversation I appear to be a bad listener.

    I'm Too Spastic

    Sense of humor is supposed to be attractive, but apparently some of my brands of humor don't cut it. I love to dance...but I can't dance. Uncorking the River Dance, or a late 80's rap move doesn't get me anywhere. Also, I employ semi-gay "summoning power from the Heavens" Celine-Dion-like hand gestures. MLRhttp://katrinawampler.wordpress.com/2008/12/When I've had a little too much to drink, I take to "free styling" inanimate objects in the street by approaching those objects and ad-libbing a feminine gymnastic move off of them. I'm also very loud when telling jokes and stories.

    You Know All About Me In The First Five Minutes

    Within the first five minutes of meeting me, you most likely know one or all of the following: I once was afraid I had crabs (I swear I didn't have them), my GPA at University of Delaware was 2.3, I'm bad with finances, I'm lazy, I don't like responsibility, I have cats, etc. It's not only TMI, it's WKI (the Wrong Kind of Information). The information I share may be entertaining, but I should save it for later when I've already established that I'm semi-normal. TMI/WKI strips me of my mystery.

    I've Been Single For A Long Time

    You know how people brag about their work experience: "been in the business for twenty years"? You think, wow that person must be great at what they do. They were born to be in that business. Well, I've been single for a long, long time. Women in our friendship circle must think: "he was born to be single"...and "he must have been single ever since I've known him for a reason".

    I'm lacking "maturity" and/or "mystery". These are two things women look for in a guy, and I don't have them-and I'm not even doing a good job faking it. This explains why I try for younger women, but even younger women think I'm immature at times.

    My friends tell me that I should treat every girl as if she's a dating possibility. According to my "He Went to Jared" theory, women love to talk to one another about their boyfriends. I doubt many women would want to go to their friends and say:

    "My boyfriend is so cute-he river-dances and tells bathroom humor jokes. Then, on our way home, he bounces off trashcans and mailboxes like Mary Lou Retton."

    I suppose this is like professional networking: I shouldn't burn any bridges. I'd never get a job if I was perceived as a freak by an entire job industry based on my behavior at industry events and previous employers. But being a freak is fun, so I'm not quite sure what the solution is.

    My friend Margaret told me to employ her mom's advice to make sure I apply the charm to every girl I meet, including "just friends", and women I'm not attracted to:

    "Be nice to the short guys because they have tall friends."

    What makes a guy more "dateable" or "undateable" to you? What do you think my biggest issues are and how should I adjust to become a "dateable" guy? Is it possible to change opinion once I've been marked as "undateable?"

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    Posted by Rich


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    28 comments

    • al sharpton  •  1 year 0 months ago
      women are the curse of man kind, they are a treason of biology, a prepeputal motion of narasistic endevours, then you marry them and they take your house, money , cars and kids from you, plus you have to give them most of your pension and social security to them in the divorce, go visit your w---- house, get your rocks off and your be better off, besides marriage is nothing more than legalized prositution that the law provides for her welfare, its a shame that something that looks so good and smells good is nothing but bait waiting for a innocent victim such as yourself to come walking along, when women regain their place in the world as women, instead of trying to have bigger balls and longer penises than men, then you rest a little easier taht the natural instinct that they have for men will resume and the world will be a better place once again, so consider yourself lucky, stay single, keep your money and belongings in your presence, be drama free and independent,
    • carolynne  •  2 years 11 months ago
      "My boyfriend is so cute-he river-dances and tells bathroom humor jokes. Then, on our way home, he bounces off trashcans and mailboxes like Mary Lou Retton."

      ?? i wish i could say this. most guys seem so concerned about being "what women want" because they mistake this for being thoughtful. i personally find it attractive if a guy is confident in himself, but not self-centered, as in he seems honestly interested in what i say or do and not in just impressing me.

      go ahead and bust a move, just bring me along!
    • emma  •  2 years 11 months ago
      I would say you should look at why you are scared of taking responsibilities. Not that it necessarily would put off girls but it goes hand in hand with maturity and if you work on that, you should be able to form better relationships - which are not only based on fun... Just a thought ...
    • MizzBRi  •  3 years 0 months ago
      You stated that you like being the center of attention. Perhaps thats youre downfall. Women sometimes like for someone to listen to what they have to say regardless of what it may be. Listening shows you care. The attention given to one another in a relationship should be given equally on both ends.
      Of course every woman apprciates a gentlemen whos mature and intelligent. But being a mystery could come off as perhaps maybe youre hiding something and this could cause the woman to develop trust issues with you.
      Even while youre dating you should be honest and direct about what you are looking for before you take it any farther. So there wouldnt be a misunderstanding.
      It sounds to me as though you have a strong personality and you like being in control of situations. I feel you would probaly be best with a passive and naive woman who dosent mind jumping to your command and allowing you to be the spotlight.
      Everyone has someone that is for them.
      Goodluck on finding yours:)
    • Blueface_20  •  3 years 0 months ago
      dating is for weak men. the alcohol in my shot glass is more important than any woman will ever be to me. :)
    • shadysara89  •  3 years 0 months ago
      in my thoughts when i read this artical was that i think you are having problems really knowing what you want in a woman cuz thats a big thing. first i would have to say that a man of your situation probly wants to be with someone who is in it for the long run heres my advise when you do go on a date first things first you should open the car door for the lady it maybe old school but it is very affective in saying that your a lady and im a gentalman girls dont want to marry the guy they dated in high school how drove the bike or what ever they want a guy who is there for the long run. through out the date pay attention to her if you reseve a call on the first date and you take it just kiss that girl good bye in my eyes if you do take it try to make it as breaf as possible if not at all. try to talk about simple stuff things that every one can relate to like maybe music or education things that you may have in common you deff can be goofy just not on the first few dates as it is your date is feeling uncomfterble if you have never met them its just human nature. you just feed the real you in small portions they have to know your name before your account balence its a step prosses to be humble is good if you want a long term relationship dont be flashy in alot of girls who want the long term thing dont want flashy is like coming over to a girl and just say your sexy its not goood what so ever if a guy was flashy and had that attatued i would stear clear they only want to have sex and after all is said and done its over insted of useing the term sexy if you do want to say something of that nature you should say Beautiful
    • Carly  •  3 years 0 months ago
      Well first you should jump on a plane and come to Kansas City!! Just be yourself, and avoid being fake. If you try to hard its a turn off. I personaly like a guy who is kind of a freak. What is normal anyway right? So let that freak flag fly, and come to Kansas City, you will find a lot of women that like you for who you are.
    • FF  •  3 years 0 months ago
      "be nice to the short guys because they have tall friends" So true, I swear people think I'm way cuter than I am (I dont think I'm cute, but I recognize I get attention) because I'm nice to EVERYONE. Like, genuinely nice, and I don't see a reason not to be unless given one. I wish other cute girls would try it out
    • Alexandra  •  3 years 0 months ago
      Maybe you just haven't met the right freak...I mean girl...yet.
    • Brittany  •  3 years 0 months ago
      It's better to be a freak than normal most of the time anyway....You have a personality which most men don't have and that's wonderful, as for being mature your doing a lot better than most men out then :) You'll find a girl who's for you just remember to keep your eyes open and when you stop looking she'll be right there :)
    • Rebecca  •  3 years 0 months ago
      Most of the things you describe yourself as scream "player" to me....I think thats what makes women think you are not dating material....No one wants to be yet another notch on your headboard :(
    • Planner  •  3 years 0 months ago
      You enjoy being the center of attention..so do little kids! First flaw.You want to do things that appear to show a wild side but you want to do them alone..who cares then? What woman wants a child BF to raise to manhood? You dominate the conversation with all your ME stuff and you wonder why your not dating material? So basically, your a braggert with no intentions of a relationship, you just want someone to think your cool and for what reasons, does the word EGO mean anything? Duh!!! If half of what you say about yourself is true, I pity the woman that thinks you are dateable by any stretch of the imagination. You first need to become a better follower before your ready to lead anyone anywhere.
    • PaisleyS  •  2 years 11 months ago
      Also the way through my heart. is through my brain so if i can say something and they say something back that gets me thinking .. the better for me you know. I need someone thats gonna keep me on my feet
    • February  •  3 years 0 months ago
      Aww!!!!
      Please dont feel bad. You are not undateable. you just havent found the right girl yet. you cant expect her to fall from the sky right in front of you.
      Maybe next time ask her to talk about herself. Ask her questions.
      BE YOURSELF IN THE BEGINNING AND MIDDLE.
    • Doktor Eevol  •  3 years 0 months ago
      "Women look for maturity and mystery" uh excuse me? Maturity, yes, but I don't want mystery. Thankyouverymuch. Your first objective should be to stop stereotyping women and start understanding them as unique individuals instead of viewing them through that vague fog of popular generalizations.

      If you've been labeled as "undatable" by the people around you - and I would think they know you better than any of us would - I don't think that it's because you are a ham, open about your life, or because you tell raunchy jokes. Anyone can have all those qualities and still get a date. That leads me to suspect it's the way you treat people.

      IMO it's not even about being datable. You become datable IF you are capable of having a healthy, honest relationship. People are a LOT more perceptive than you give them credit for. They can sense whether they are being treated like a human being or not.
    • Raven Mocker  •  3 years 0 months ago
      Why are you considered undateable? My advice is just to b yourself. If their right for you then they will learn to deal with your personality. You don't sound undateable. Most guys get advice to act mature, being mature sometimes helps(like at work or for a job interview) but besides that its good to just b yourself. I bet there's tons of women who act like you sometimes. They may not admit it but they probably do. Liking to be the center of attention is fine. Certain people may be turned off about it but there the type not right for you. If you act like something your not them if u get in a relationship with people, and act how you normally act, they may discover a trait in you they didn't know and might not like. So just b yourself and the right women for you will come along. And when they do you'll be glad you didn't change.
    • Mike  •  3 years 0 months ago
      Most of my life I have had women as friends from my sister to my best female friend Sam. I always talk to them about anything I might be confused about. So it is nice to have that resource when I need it.

      Yet I do get the feeling at times that I am always the friend and not someone that the women want to have as the boyfriend. I even had one woman ask me why I had so many women in my life and that I would need to get rid of them if I wanted to be with her. Well, obviously I did not say goodbye to my friends just because of one woman's competative jealousy.

      So I do understand in part that feeling of the lone guy round the sea of couples and wishing to sail like they do with a good partner. I am always myself, maybe a bit goofy at times, maybe a bit serious at others. Yet I just live my life the best I can and wonder when I will run into the special woman for me. I have heard all the advice you could think of from "put yourself out there and keep pursuing," to "don't look for love, it will come when you least expect it."

      I have to say I really don't know which is better to do or to hear from my friends. Some days I want to walk up to a woman and be bold saying something nice about them to break the ice. Other days I am scared to even make eye contact. Either way I feel inside I always treat them the way I want to be treated, with open honesty and respect.

      The one thing I have a struggle with is to know when I woman is interested in me. I have been told I missed a flirt or a look even though I was sitting right there to see it. To know by her tone if she is just being polite by letting me visit for a while, or is actully interested. I try and I fall down a lot but weach time I do I learn more about myself and about my interactions in situations like that.
    • Carolyn Siegel  •  3 years 0 months ago
      Visit Maine
    • Rae  •  2 years 11 months ago
      bee kee-lah! :D
    • Devyn B  •  2 years 11 months ago
      I think your looking for wrong type of girl you sound just like my husband:-) And I love it!!! I may roll my eye's when he jumps over parking meters and cat calls men pretending to be gay ( i'm not slamming just saying) but I know him from the inside and he is all good in there. Some women look to much of what your doing outside to get to know you inside. I met mine at a bar and he was dancing with a bunch of his guy friends to an older 90's rap song run DMC or something and they were pretending to dance with eachother like they were a girl and a guy. I thought he was adorable and I was sunk. Keep doing what your doing you will find someone who appriciates you for who you are:-)

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