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    Would You Date an Unemployed Guy?

    I can't wait for Labor Day. I'm feeling too corporate lately. That Human Resources Department (apparently they weren't around in Caligula's day) makes me behave. I do plan to commit several Human Resource violations this weekend at the beach, but that's why it's Labor Day!

    Speaking of labor, I saw an interesting survey from Zoosk that might provide solace for unemployed daters:

    60% of women said that they'd date an unemployed guy, up from 52% in 2009; 90% of men said they'd date someone who was unemployed versus 92% in 2009.

    "What do you do?" can make or break things, and always comes up in conversation when meeting someone.

    Destiny's Child crooned:

    "Can you pay my bills,
    Can you pay my telephone bills,
    Can you pay my automo'bills...
    I don't think you do, so you and me are through."

    I was "between jobs" for a while, doing promotions for Coca-Cola on a project basis. I would describe it as "marketing for Coke," dressing it up a bit and making it sound permanent.

    Sometimes I'd respond with "absolutely nothing," trying to "own" my unemployment but, like most of my tactics, that didn't work either.

    This was actually a conflict with another finding in the Zoosk survey:

    83% of men and 93% of women agree that if someone is unemployed, they should reveal it right away.

    My new favorite channel, Discovery ID, has a series called Who the (Bleep) Did I Marry, and many stories involve the groom faking income or a hard-core job to seduce the bride. So there's merit to that stat above.

    There are a few reasons that "unemployment" can be damaging in the dating world:

    Unemployment Has Negative Connotations

    People associate employment with high intelligence and motivation. There are plenty of intelligent unemployed people, and I have a job even though I'm possibly the laziest person on earth - so these stereotypes are not true.

    Anytime someone goes against the grain (society says we should work and contribute), there's going to be some alteration of perception of that person.

    Having goals and aspirations is attractive - sometimes we look at a career as a tangible representation of that spirit.

    How Can You Take Me on Dates with No Income?

    A working guy seems more independent and able to afford to do a nice thing for a girl here and there. And people might feel guilty having an unemployed person taking them out and paying. Sadly, I just racked up the credit card when I went out with girls while I was unemployed - and that created more problems.

    Sugar Mamas Are Rare

    Not many women want to "take care" of a guy (helping me balance my checkbook and remember to call my mom on her birthday is another story).

    What Will I Tell My Friends?

    Some women might have anxiety telling their friends and family that their new boyfriend is unemployed.

    So, why are more women willing to date an unemployed man in 2010?

    One reason: He can give his girlfriend more attention (outside of his job search or whatever is going on). There are no late nights at the office, and no "business trips," or any forums to cheat. (It seems that many men find avenues to cheat through work.)

    Also, we may be more understanding of an unemployed person's situation in a bad job market/economy.

    Finally, society may be shifting from the old way (men as the breadwinners) to more balance - and/or women as the breadwinners. Trust me, I'm fully prepared for my future wife to outearn me, and I'm fine with it...as long as I get to watch the Ravens and play guitar.

    I think working women are hot. Most of the women I meet in NYC have high aspirations, and the women in this city are serious and driven about their opportunities.

    But, I have the utmost respect for my older sister, a stay-at-home mom with her two daughters - that daily routine is just as long and challenging as the professional routine.

    I don't get hung up on "job status" - although I do admit some women (girls who work in music, writing, art, or in male-dominated fields like finance) are intriguing.

    Ultimately, I want an intelligent girl, passionate about the things she loves, doing something with her life. There are many women who complain about work 24/7, casting a negative cloud - is a happy, unemployed girl chasing her "dream" more attractive?

    There's much more to a person than what they do, but it is a significant part of the whole picture.

    Would you date an unemployed guy? What are your thoughts on the above, and why do you think more women are willing to date unemployed men these days?


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    Posted by Rich


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    75 comments

    • Steven Stanley Bayes  •  9 months ago
      The girls do NOT want to date an unemployed BUT just say so in order to mislead the reader they are "NICE" and look for "TRUE LOVE" based on the person "NOT" on the money, i. e. they are "NOT" w----s, one way or the other.

      The reality, of course, is somewhat different. The women look for money and mainly for money and, in most cases, only for money (although size is important too). In case of a few males with money, they would have a choice BUT onlamongst these few guys. In other words, they are LIMITED prostitutes. I. e. while a prostitute would sleep with most any man for money, the limited prostitutes would choosamongst a feamongst the richest possible in thcategoryry (in the "TAX BRACKET", in case you will).

      HENCE, NO WOMAN WOULD DATE OR HAVE SEX WITH UNEMPLOYED UNLESS THIS WOMAN CANNOT FIND ANYONE ELSE, AS FOR EXAMPLE DIVORCED WOMEN WITH CHILDREN OR A GIRLS WHO HAS BEEN FRIENDS WITH A GIVEN GUY AND AFRAIDRAID TO GO FOR ANOTHER BECAUSE OF ABUSE AND OTHER DANGERS.

      I wish to believe certain exceptions apply in cases of good girls who trulytrully look for a personality as opposed to a paying dick but I may be proven an atheist in this case too.

      An interesting exception is the UK AS A GROSS GENERALISATION, where f--- means nothing, so girls do not give a s--- whom they are f--- ed by because they don't pay money for the f--- anyways and they don't care they don't make money IN THIS CASE BUT NOT IN ALL CASES: they believe they would find some sugar in the coffee but a f--- , more or less, would not harm them. Take it as a less short term "CHARITY f--- ". I other words, women in the UK distinguish between a guy for marriage and a guy for dating (a. k. a. f--- ).

      This is why USA and Canada look like Arab countries to some people or a convent for noble prostitutes to ocertainlyt certanly not like the French court.

      There is NOTHING WRONG, however, for a girl not to do it because the girl believes it is wrong. Most girls do NOT believe it is wrong and do a lot of sleeping around. Around the rich guys ONLY.

      Most American girls f--- for a Capital HMO health insurance, which is the lousiest health insurance on earth but is better then not having health insurance at all, believe it or not.

      From sex to economy: what a shame for these, so called, richest countries: Countries where girls would f--- for to pay them bills. The funny thing is the bills should either be for free or a negligible amount of money. I do not want to mention the health insurance.

      Thankfully, guys know all of these things.
    • opiniononly  •  1 year 9 months ago
      As Allie said so well, there is a difference between being unemployed and not being employable. It's all about how one responds to situations.

      If you are unemployed and, as the author wrote, "racked up the credit cards when I went out with girls"...well, for me, that is a significant issue which relates more to overall maturity and responsibility than being unemployed...and that would be the red flag for me.
    • Tor  •  1 year 8 months ago
      Well to look at it the other way I would not date a woman who is not financially independent.
    • Shake it Gurl!  •  1 year 9 months ago
      I would have to agree with you Giz, learning from personal experience. I dated a guy who was unemployed and NEVER ever will i do that again (ok maybe not never) but I did learn my lesson. He was depressed, and never wanted to do anything. So we agrued more about going out than anything even if I did offer to pay to go to the dollar movie. It was just more trouble than it was worth. I found myself questionting if I wasn't being supportive enough... and that wasn't the source of the issue... I wouldn't recommend it to anyone to date anyone who is unemployed just because the future isn't so promising if there isn't availabe funds. It really does matter
    • btobe  •  1 year 9 months ago
      The unemployed generally tend not to get hung up on "job status". I had to laugh at the author's statement there. If you are employed they aren't going to complain and if your not, who are they to judge you - they don't have a job either!
    • dre  •  1 year 9 months ago
      As an unemployed man, because i lost my job, I did the next best thing and went back to school to open my own business. Women can tell if a man is a loser, no matter what they say or do, there are ways to better yourself when unemployed, and I'm sure a good woman can appreciate that.
    • Pegglecat MacO'Hoolih ...  •  1 year 9 months ago
      I have dated an unemployed guy, and his unemployed status only came out after we'd been out a few times. It wasn't a big deal to me, because in my industry, people get laid off all the time, and there are others who go from contract to contract. We broke up later for other reasons (his employment status wasn't the only thing he had been vague about), but if unemployment had been a long-term thing, I would have to wonder if he was sticking around because I was financially secure.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  1 year 9 months ago
      Depends on the situation. I know how much it sucks to get laid off and struggle every single day to find a new job, so I certainly wouldn't assume that an unemployed guy is just lazy or unhireable. However, there is a difference between the temporarily unemployed and the chronic job quitters who live in their parents' basements.
    • Rachel Peyton  •  1 year 9 months ago
      I've never dated an unemployed man, and would probably never even consider it. When I was out in the dating world I had a professional career, and expected the same from the guys I dated. There are enough men out there that finding one with a job isn't that hard unless you're looking in the wrong places! I think women who make the conscious choice to enter into a relationship with an unemployed man are selling themselves short. Unless a man is independently wealthy and unemployed, the woman is going to have to pay for everything . I'll take it one step further by saying that I'm actually surprised that unemployed men even put themselves out in the dating market. As a woman, I certainly never dated when I was unemployed. I would think most women would see these men as moochers, or losers. Women need to look out for themselves and make sure that they are with someone who is willing to put forth the same amount of effort as they are. I could never understand women who use their hard earned money to buy things for the unemployed guy she is dating.
    • david  •  1 year 8 months ago
      my sister husband has a job making good money and has 2 kids with her she also works to but he is greedy and alawys wants her to flip the bill everytime so being employed doesnt mean its all cracked up to be. so to me he is the loser she gets better respect from a guy that is partly unemployed and has so being that way aint bad after all
    • Shaherah  •  1 year 8 months ago
      I can understand if a guy doesn't have work, where I live, it is HARD to find work. I used to do accounting for a concert business. i love music. I play piano, I'm going to school for music composition for film and i write rock music as well. I have work now though, but I miss my old job! I'm happy my bf is as supportive of my dreams though, because I think most guys wouldn't understand the kind of drive i have for music. I think it would drive most guys nuts how much music is involved in my life. It's like my 2nd lover lol Now that I think about it that's probably why all my boyfriends have been musicians. one played piano, one play cello, another guitar, my bf right now is a singer for a band so yeah. I don't think unemployment for a guy is a huge deal breaker unless they just have given up all together. I can't stand a man who has no drive or goals whatsoever. If they are at least making an honest effort to improve their situation then I think that is all that matters because everyone go through rough times at one point or another, can't expect perfection and money isn't everything, also the connection you feel with that person.
    • B  •  1 year 8 months ago
      Is he unemployed, but wants to work?
      - Yes? Great - what can I do to help?
      - No? I am sorry, but I am just not interested in guys who don't want to earn something for themselves.
    • Giz  •  1 year 9 months ago
      No. People who are unemployed tend to get a little depressed, their confidence goes downwards and so do their standards. None of that bodes well for a relationship and I have never known a relationship that started while one person was unemployed to end well. I can't tell you the number of female friends/acquaintances who were promptly dumped after months of footing the bill for their unemployed boyfriend when he got a job, regained his confidence and decided he could do better.
    • TinaSomething  •  1 year 9 months ago
      Dubs - you always have the most insightful comments! Keep 'em coming!
    • jennifer  •  1 year 8 months ago
      No job , No date,, Im not one to care much about how much money a guy makes, but i dont like the idea of no money,, if he did have a job and was laid off and on unemployment i would date him but i would have to find out if he is the type that is only going to keep on unemployment and not look for something else , cause if that is how he is it would be no more dates .
    • Mauna  •  1 year 9 months ago
      No I would not, I dated one several years ago, and it was a strain on me, even though he was working part time, I was the one always having to pay for things for us to do and I did not like it that at all. I am sure it would be vice versa; males would not want to date an unemployed female. Society has based success and valid reasons for a marriage to be okayed, upon the following which was taught in College: Sociology 101: The 4 important aspects to measure when deciding to marry; 1) Economic status 2) Religion 3) Education 4) Income level.
    • waycross2059  •  1 year 8 months ago
      ive worked for 30yrs found myself laid off for 18months , during of witch i tryed to carry friendships or try dates, who wants to date and uneployed man i here, ( i am widowed) after i found a good job again the same woman that wouldnt give me the time of day wants to be nice to me and alll that, well!! really i wont even consider now , always a good mesurement of what thier about , all about the money , men generally dont look at a woman for her job , crazy standards, but the diggers shows themselves
    • Allie  •  1 year 9 months ago
      WOW... lots of frightened women one here... yes, I would date and unemployed guy.. We are in a recession people and being unemployed is NOT the same as unemployable... Grow up and think outside of your own little selfish world girls.. reality is you might be next to be unemployed and that is a fact...
    • X X  •  1 year 8 months ago
      It all depends on WHY he's unemployed. If he's unemployed because he's avoiding getting a job to pay child support I'd avoid that like the plague. Where I am-in the country you NEED a car to get to the store at least not to mention to drive to a job! I know of a guy who didn't have a license because he didn't feel he should have to pay tickets. I think it also had something to do with non payment of child support also. I just don't find that attractive. It shows that a guy can't follow the basic rules of polite society. Currently, I am dating a guy without a job so that requires me to drive the 20 miles to see him & bring him to my house & drive him back. There are some "legal" issues & I'm willing to put up with it. It also works in my favor. No one wants to drive him 20 miles out of their way to come see me so I don't have to worry about him dropping by my house. On the other hand he's great at yard work. How many men would come to their girlfriend's house & take care of the yard, do the dishes & feed the cat special cat food just because he thinks she should have it? He also gives the cat cat nip. So there are trade offs.
    • TheRealestLeo  •  1 year 8 months ago
      If you're unemployed, shouldn't GETTING A JOB be near (or at) the top of your Things To Do list?

      Not "Who can I scam out of a free meal tonight?"

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