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    POLL: Are girls meaner than boys?

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    Last couple road workouts, my running buddy and I had good conversational entertainment with the differences between boys and girls and which are more trouble. On this subject, we are each 50 percent qualified. My bud and his wife have two boys, the younger in the first grade like our seven-year-old only daughter. Though not a true wife-supported home dad like me, this is a veteran daytime dad, not a Saturday show-off. His job lets him work from the house on a regular basis, and he catches a lot of routine parenting and household scut.

    Anyway, this gender thing is a lot of fun. It's like we're talking about the young of different species. Which is worse, our answers offset. Like boys have all this loud, uncontrollable monkey energy and break stuff and pound lumps on each other. On the other hand, girls are driven by social and emotional needs that are mysterious, bottomless - think passage to the earth's molten core - and beyond the ken of daddies. This one, anyway. One of the needs is to screw over other girls.

    Truth in three words - girls are meaner. Sure, boys fight, but when it's over it's over. Girls try to do lasting emotional damage. They do it for fun, and enjoy the collateral dramatics.

    I could tell my friend didn't buy it - not until he comes along when I dropped off my girl at her ballet class.

    By way of background, we're talking Bolshoi style training for classical dance, at entry level but serious, directed by a scary Russian teacher and with a heavy presence of Russian kids. No talking in class, no unearned praise, no aren't-we-special BS of any kind. You should know, too, that my friend is heavily involved in a ballet analog. He coaches soccer, and his older son plays in an elite program run by a Brit as crazy serious as our ballet mistress. So he knows gunner kids.

    Still, he's amazed by a bit of casual, low-level meanness we witness in the ballet studio:

    One of the better and older girls, almost nine I'm guessing, stretches out before class, doing a thing like a frog run over by a truck.

    Another girl comes in and says, all friendly and admiring, "Oooh, what you're doing hurts. It's hard!"

    And the girl stretching says, "No it isn't."

    Okay, maybe you have to hear her. Flat, dismissive, dissing the other girl's skills, her worthiness to speak and act friendly. Cuts the other kid at the knees, she does, without even looking up.

    Cute girl, but also a fully weaponized, reality-TV-grade byeatch. My friend says afterward says that a kid like that could eat his older son and his friends alive, and they're 11.

    Yeah, well, welcome to my world. And that was nothing! While we run, I tell about meanness at school, up and down our street. The girls try to steal and monopolize each other's friends, so the loser has to play alone. Yesterday, ours went on and on about somebody else spreading damaging rumors. Anger, tears, mad scenes. They love it.
    Now you tell me -- are girls meaner?

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    173 comments

    • axle  •  1 year 1 month ago
      I'm going to have to disagree with the majority here, and say it's about 50/50. Girls and boys are both equally mean. Those who say a specific gender is meaner, they only say that through their experience, not because it's a sheer fact. Boys are more physically damaging and girls are more psychologically damaging. Both are mean and can have longer-lasting effects.

      If you get into fights with boys you could walk away with permanent scars, bruises, broken bones or a lost limb. Quarrels with girls can severely damage your self-esteem, self-confidence, pride, reputation, it can humiliate/embarass you and tie you down to emotional nothingness. I've experienced both kinds of physical and social damage through the two genders....BOTH WERE UNPLEASANT.
    • Allie  •  2 years 2 months ago
      I think that girls can be psychologically meaner. I refuse, however, to believe that this behavior is "just in their nature". Parents, the media, and our culture all influence girls and women. It doesn't have to be this way.
    • Super A  •  2 years 2 months ago
      As a mother of three daughters, I find this question extremely interesting.
      My oldest daughter was very quiet, never fought, or argued, unless picked on. Then AFTER the fight all would be good..
      My middle daughter was very involved in school and other activities, quite a people person, even at a young age. She still is the same.
      My youngest daughter was ALWAYS right, fought, argued, hard-headed and STILL DOES all the above!! LOL
      So I guess it all depends on the girl, and the situation!!
    • Caramel Cake  •  2 years 2 months ago
      I have 4 boys and 2 girls, and yes my girls are meaner and ruder. I used to think it was because of their brothers, but it's just them. My boys are always asking can they help around the house, but my girls just want to lounge around and be divas! I prefer to have girls because they are not as hard headed, but girls are meaner than boys because it IS in thier nature!!!!
    • daisy*kae  •  2 years 2 months ago
      physically boys may be the meaner, but emotionally i've seen girls shred each other apart.
    • Manic Motherhood  •  2 years 2 months ago
      As a woman raised in a house with only sisters (poor Dad), who is raising an only child (a boy) I can say a fully-unqualified OH HELL, YES.

      But that's just my opinion ;)
    • AMBER C  •  2 years 2 months ago
      Yes, we are meaner. Much meaner. This is why most of my close friends are male. So much easier to interact with.
    • MLS78  •  2 years 2 months ago
      That's why (ignorant) men like to use the term bitch at us so much. Truth is, a LOT of women are bitchy.
    • sneaker_girl  •  2 years 2 months ago
      YES! I've always said this. I've explained to my guy-friends the difference between guy mean and girl mean in almost those exact words. Guys get mad, punch each other, hurt each other, have huge fights; but then its done. They are either friends or they don't speak to each other afterwards. Thats it. They get angry, they act, the end. Girls however have goals. They can let things sit forever and then just attack. They want to emotionally scar eachother. They want to get in eachother's heads and make each other cry themselves to sleep. They want the other person to suffer, while guys don't want anything: they are just mad. This is why I have mostly guy-friends. I can handle a punch; I can't handle endless drama.
    • ChloeE  •  2 years 2 months ago
      I have to agree, Girls are meaner than boys. But to a certain extend, I think it can be equal opportunity. I have known quite a few guys, that were pure mean. But I definitely have dealt with more girls who are of the purest evil.
      I personally think, its the difference in men and women that makes us. We tend to think of every possibility and result where guys just think of one way and go with it. Mentally we are always planning and can be devious. But something about it must be good, because guys can't get enough.
    • CP  •  2 years 2 months ago
      Men and women are different. It doesn't mean though that girls can be or should be allowed to be meaner. I know guys who are mean (that's why, although it's unfair, some people brand them as having a mouth of a woman). I can't understand how a woman can say that's why she has mostly or all male friends because she finds other women bitchy. I have a bunch of female friends and some of them I would have chosen to be my sisters. I also have good male friends. I can't help but think, when women say other women are just too bitchy to be friends with, do they just somehow find their way to these mean women or they are mean themselves.
    • justme  •  2 years 2 months ago
      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
    • Mariah  •  2 years 2 months ago
      I am guilty of being mean and doing it for the sake of drama. I eat it up. Always have, especially with a younger sister to help fuel it.
    • BandLover101  •  2 years 2 months ago
      YES. Guys may go at it, but they don't go at each others throats for teeny tiny issues.
    • Ranefyre  •  2 years 0 months ago
      I disagree. Boys are meaner. The only reason you aren't seeing them post is because the don't know how to express the hurt/anger that they are caused.
      I work with men in man-dominated field. Men are just as big of gossiping-backstabbing hens as you will ever see. The 'pack' mentality is with both men and women, it's HUMAN nature. You just don't see it because men just don't talk about it.
    • Monkey's Momma  •  2 years 2 months ago
      I've said this for years. As a gender we are taught at the youngest ages by our roll models to be b!tches.

      If you want friends you can't just be nice to everyone, because being nice to the wrong person means that you can't be friends with the popular group and thus become an outcast.

      (Later) If you want the guy you can't just prove how wonderful you are you have to prove that plus how the other girls are (you can fill in the blank here).

      Guys will beat the crap out of each other and it's done - they can be friends forever after that- because they confront it.

      Girls try to make you develop eating disorders or self esteem issues or anything else you can inflict upon yourself - because we are taught that you can't confront, you can't have ugly emotions in public, you have to be nice to everyone. (Awful cycle isn't it.)
    • Jade  •  2 years 2 months ago
      Heck yeah,we girls are way meaner.We attack on the emotional level and some try to leave you tramatized for life!!But boys are just mostly physical,though i have seen some guys get catty in fights.
    • Sensi  •  2 years 2 months ago
      Oh, and I forgot to say: That movie Mean Girls? Well, although it was a little extreme I find that girls actually DO these sorts of things to each other. It was a little extreme but not that far from the truth.
    • mel-mel  •  2 years 2 months ago
      yup i mean im a bitch maself
    • Atheist for a reason!  •  2 years 2 months ago
      As a high school teacher I watch the cruel and ugly behavior between girls daily. They will grow up to be mean and ugly women. My mom always told me not to become a back-biting, conniving female - boy, was she right!

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