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    Should Teachers Be Banned from Cursing in School?


    (ThinkStock Photos)(ThinkStock Photos)If you can't say that on television, than you shouldn't say it in class. That's the gist of a new bill proposed by a conservative Arizona lawmaker, Lori Klein. If she gets her way, teachers will be penalized for cursing in front of students.

    A slip-up could result in suspension, docked pay, and, even job loss.

    While most school officials wouldn't advocate cursing in front of kids, it happens. And the definition and use of an offending word isn't always clear-cut.

    "Arizona's clean-speech-for-teachers act is not likely to survive a constitutional test if it is enacted," Dennis Baron, a Linguistics and English professor at the University of Illinois, writes on his personal blog. "But even without the statute, the state's teachers still won't be able to explore with their students the implications of Caliban's provocative claim about language and cursing."

    From The Tempest to Huck Finn, bad words surface throughout the cannon of English literature. How will teachers work through complicated texts under the looming threat of job loss? Another sticky issue comes up in biology class. The blogger behind From Hip to Housewife recalled her daughter's schooling on slang during frank sex education lessons.

    "The teachers explain the "real" words for the reproductive and sexual organs, the sexual act and various and sundry other words having to do with puberty," she explains. "Then they ask the kids what words they know. And it turns out, they know A LOT of words."

    Could an FCC style ban in the classroom hamper the education process and freedom of speech in general?

    "That is really problematic," David Hudson of the First Amendment Center, told MSNBC. "There are serious First Amendment problems with it, serious academic freedom violations."

    Education aside, teachers are also human, and at times, four letter words slip from their mouths as nature intended. Is it really such a big deal?

    "I definitely don't think that teachers should be cursing all willy nilly, but if something sudden happens and it slips, I'm going to give them a pass," writes one parent on the forum CafeMom .

    Some parents aren't as forgiving. "Learning those words in school somehow validates the words themselves," writes another CafeMom member. "School is for education. Let's set examples and teach them that cursing is not good behavior even if it's acceptable in videos and movies."

    New York City's department of education might agree with that statement. In 2010, a Manhattan teacher was suspended and docked $15,000 in pay after cursing in Spanish during one of his classes. Ironically, when the teacher took the school to task in court, the judge was far more lenient, cutting his fine down to just $1000.

    But if Klein's bill passes, Arizona judges may not be as understanding.

    "Frankly school boards are the ones who should be making these decisions," David Schapira, an Arizona lawmaker who opposes the bill, told the Associated Press, adding, "I don't remember this being a big problem when I taught high school."

    What do you think: Should teachers be criminalized for cursing in the classroom?

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    • Lavindra  •  2 months ago
      America, everything's starting to GET crazy.
      • Confused 2 months ago
        Agreed Epic Bob 7! I'm old enough to remember when we couldn't even chew gum in class! AND respect was shown all teachers. No cursing; no bullying. Look at schools now
      • My opinion 2 months ago
        When was there no bullying?
    • pudge  •  2 months ago
      I think they are wayyy over thinking this. Teachers swearing in class is inappropriate, but obviously in a literary sense, if you are discussing a novel, for instance, there's no way around it. I think the thing they should really do is dock *students* for their use of foul language - they probably hear more foul language from each other and their own families than they do their teachers.
    • Ryan Chandler  •  2 months ago
      there shouldn't be a need to have it banned. teachers should be smart enough to know that it's wrong and to not do it. We don't need more laws and rules, we just need to apply common sense.
    • Reason  •  2 months ago
      Using curse words is a lazy way to communicate what you are feeling. If someone makes you angry and you want to convey that in a way to bring about change, you look for intelligent ways by broadening your vocabulary. That is getting an education. And for the teacher it should be giving an education. Early (1700s &1800s) education in the United States involved teaching children how to logically debate and it produced statesmen and true leadership.
    • Turkistan  •  2 months ago
      Having taught for over 30 years, I can say with absolute conviction that any teacher who curses in front of students should have his bum fired.
    • Turkistan  •  2 months ago
      Curse words DO reveal a little mind. I'm around different kinds of people all of the time and it is always the uneducated, bigoted, mean, lazy people who swear. The truth hurts.
    • Robert  •  Irvine, California  •  2 months ago
      I think if any Arizona lawmakers are caught swearing they should be docked a months pay.
    • Bea  •  2 months ago
      I have been a teacher since 1974. I think it's ridiculous that legislative time is being wasted on this. Teachers should not curse in front of students (coaches included); they are supposed to model good behavior. If they slip and curse, they should apologize and move on. I can't express how much time I have spent correcting students who curse. If a teacher curses frequently, the situation should be addressed by his/her superior. If a student brings home that a teacher curses often, the parent will report that to the administration. That teacher will be called in and taken to task. A law is not required to solve this situation, which I dare say is rare.
      • JustAnotherMom 2 months ago
        I had teachers in jr high and in high school who cursed constantly and the administration refused to do anything when students and parents complained. While I think criminalization is taking it too far I thing passing legislation that sets up a framework of consequences and prevention isn't a bad idea. I'm glad you didn't see this where you were, but it was a big problem where I went to school (in spite of the fact that I grew up in a fairly conservative and highly religious area in the West).
      • same 2 months ago
        Amen, Bea
      • Bea 2 months ago
        Wow, JustAnotherMom. That's terrible. Yeah, I agree that there should be consequences...teachers aren't supposed to curse in front of their students.
    • Hey Chica  •  2 months ago
      My teacher cussed once, but it slipped out by mistake. I moved on. It was only Once.
    • Wizfan  •  2 months ago
      teachers really shouldn't be cursing to their students. they are professionals. as with the sex ed stuff, smh. our society is getting too pampered these days.
    • Ja'Zay  •  Nashville, Tennessee  •  2 months ago
      This reminds me of the time when my teacher cursed after hitting her side on her desk and this boy said he was going to write her : /
    • Corey  •  2 months ago
      Yes, it would be detrimental if students, who drop 4-letter words like they're going out of style, were to hear a teacher say an occasional curse word. Where do students hear this type of language? AT HOME! If it's of such great concern, then nip the problem in the bud. Threatening to cut pay or even fire a teacher? I don't know of any students who have ever been expelled for cursing.
      • JG 2 months ago
        They suspend students for cursing. No warning.
      • Bri 2 months ago
        actually, the students hear cursing at school from other students who think its "cool", then they start cursing to try to fit in. Its kinda sad, but its the truth. Kids these days don't know how to talk WITOUT cursing. It's such a low class habit. Of course, they also get it from R-rated, and now PG-13 movies, unfortunately. Which they just think are SO cool, and their crazy parents let them watch. I don't even watch that stuff and I'm a grown woman. Sad what we have come to.
      • Linda 2 months ago
        Amen. It's become common speech. They learn it at home. Parents don't parent.
    • srbd  •  2 months ago
      I'm a 6th grade teacher. I don't swear in my professional life or in my personal life. But the other day at school I was trying to explain a bump in a coastline on a map, and I mixed up the word ditch and bump and you can tell what came out on accident. The kids thought it was hilarious, but if a kid wanted to get me in trouble and the letter of the law stated that there was no cursing whatsoever in the classroom--situation irrelevant--I could have gotten in trouble. As soon as you start laying down laws for what can and can't be said, you're immediately going to have to start splitting straws.
      • Confused 2 months ago
        A few bloopers wouldn't get you in trouble. Keep on teaching those 6th graders. You sound as if you care about them.
      • paco 2 months ago
        If you did not cuss at home you would not slip as you call it at school
      • lo roller 2 months ago
        Just bann the words f--k , s--t, co-k, f--k y-u , if a teacher says street words then doubt they are not class room words
    • frieda  •  Riverside, California  •  2 months ago
      Well, a teacher interacts with upwards of 180 kids a day in HS, hears cursing all the time, even from the "good" kids, is frustrated, has kids that are just as bad with them as they are with their parents, has kids with parents that let them watch all sorts of movies with cursing, probably have heard cursing from their parents, and suddenly the teacher needs to be disciplined if one of the words she hears numerous times a day slips from out once or twice a year? Get over your self righteous selves.
    • Larry  •  Everett, Washington  •  2 months ago
      Oh f $#@ yes!
    • Steve  •  2 months ago
      Kids already cuss at like 10. Just not around their parents.
      • Turkistan 2 months ago
        Maybe your kids...mine are perfect angels.
    • Good Sense isn't Comm ...  •  St Louis, Missouri  •  2 months ago
      Cursing is a result of a lack of education. I guess that can be said of teachers as well.
    • T.  •  Irvine, California  •  2 months ago
      They first would have to stop the students from cursing.....Good luck with that. Their lawyers will set them (administration) straight.
      A good teacher should not be disciplined or fired for "slipping" a bad word here and there but if it's a regular habit then should be encouraged to stop. The legislature should stay focused on keeping their budget balanced and leave the vocabulary matters to the schools.
    • newenglandlady1978  •  Manchester, New Hampshire  •  2 months ago
      Its funny how the small government party in Arizona has done so much to increase the government's power recently.Of course teachers should not be allowed to curse in front of studentsThat said, a state law is both unnecessary and insulting. Most schools I know of have such a policy either officially or falling under the heading of unprofessional conduct. Moreover, teachers are human and a rigid penalty system is unfair. Docking someone's pay or officially sanctioning them for a rare slip-up is unreasonable.I have sworn in front of students exactly twice in my teaching career. Once, while heading to our lunch room, I slipped on the stairs and sprained my ankle - very painful. A single F-word exited my lips automatically - in front of students and in front of my principal. Neither he nor the students made an issue of the matter, since I do not generally swear and the circumstances were exceptional. The asked if I was ok, which is the correct response under the circumstances.The second time was when I became over-excited teaching about ancient Rome and told a class of juniors and seniors that the emperor Caligula was "bat#$%$ crazy" (and he was - look it up). I was deeply embarrassed and immediately apologized to my students. Had the principal been in the room that day, I likely would have been unofficially reminded of school policy, which would have been entirely appropriate. I argue that suspension or an official black spot on my personal record (that might have substantial career consequences) would not, given that it was an isolated incident.Habitual unprofessional conduct, including cursing, is another matter entirely, and schools do not need the government to tell them so.
    • alaskabear690  •  Syracuse, New York  •  2 months ago
      DODV- Yours is the most intelligent comment I've seen on here, although I will admit I didn't read them all. Not that all others were stupid or ignorant, it was just that you cut right to the heart of the issue. THEY ARE JUST WORDS!! Any word, from a proclaimed "curse" word to a derogatory remark about someone's life style, ethnic background, ect, is just a word. It only has the power that an individual gives it. So, here's a suggestion, DON'T GIVE WORDS POWER that they don't have. Why does everyone feel the need to push their thoughts, opinions, and beliefs onto others. If someone wants to do or say something that you don't like, TOO BAD, get over yourself. If someone wants to do or say something that directly hurts another, and I'm not talking about one's over-sensitive feelings, then it is subject to intervention. The bottom line is...live and let live.

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