The no-kids-allowed movement is spreading

The issue is not kids, it's parents who don't make any effort to control them. So many today have no clue how to raise kids, it shouldn't surprise that some people want quiet. I have no doubt that many of the people who want "No kids" times in restaurants and supermarkets have kids of their own.

In my opinion, there is a difference in how children are raised today. I witness other parents letting their child live without consequence. And awarding tantrums. I think people like children, but the children and parents oblivious to discipline are not favored

I hope the next step in this movement is the much needed and long overdue requirement of a license to breed. Some people have no buisness ever reproducing, and they should be sterilized. This anti-kid movement wouldn't even be necessary if this was already the case.

I always treated my kids like adults, even when very young. Even took them to sit-down dinners in some of the best dining places from Boston to Ogunquit. Then when my boy,8 and my girl, 5 were invited to a party in Chuck E. Cheese, they looked at me funny and said, "we get the running, but do they have to scream like that?" They didn't touch the soda, which they can't stand, and took about two bites of the pizza. On the way home, we stopped by Newick's, where they had salad and seafood. When I asked them where they want to go for summer break, they said "Venice." Venice?! Whatever happened to Disney World?

no the problem is once upon a time when your child showed out you jerked her up and you busted their butts not you have schools telling the kids to call the cops when you try to spank them. Its time to go back to the old days kids are to be seen and not heard

I love how the article says to blame childless people for this trend. WRONG!!! Blame the lazy and/or misguided parents who never try to control their kids behavior in public. "No" isn't a dirty word, people! Setting boundaries and limits is one of the most important things a parent can do to raise a well-adjusted child.

I agree with "Just Sayin". If parents had learned to discipline their kids--or were more conscientious about the other people in the restaurant, move, airplane, grocery store, etc, this would not be such an issue now. We've had a couple of generations (at least) of parents whose belief, it seemed, was that they were going to bring their 3 year old (and under) kids with them no matter what or where. And everyone else just needs to realize that kids this age are going to yell and scream--so get over it!? I can't tell you how many times I have left restaurants with bad headaches because the table next to mine had at least one child who was too young to be expected to behave appropriately in a sit down restaurant. Again, it's not the child' fault, it's the parent's. I remember being taken out to the car a few times when I was little--that's what parents used to do to unruly children (and you didn't get to go back). One more example: I was on a flight from NYC to Dallas a few years back and there was a man with a baby (one to two years old) who screamed bloody murder all but 10 minutes of that 3 hour flight. I paid a healthy amount of money for my ticket also....why should I have to be miserable because of somone else's child!? Parents make the choice to have kids--with kids comes responsibilities and accountability....

The first time my daughter had a full-out meltdown when I wouldn't buy her a toy at the supermarket, I told her, 'I'm leaving' and walked down the aisle and around the corner so she couldn't see me (I still could peak around and see her). Scared the beejeezus out of her and she stopped instantly and ran after me. After that there was just one other time I told her 'I'm leaving', and that was the very LAST time she ever threw a tantrum. People who have kids laugh and tell me that was brilliant, congratulate me on my success. People without kids tell me I was 'So cruel, the poor thing must have been terrified!' Those are the same people who would say, 'Can't she control her child??' At least the 'poor thing' minded me in public after that which made everyone happy. Parents need support to discipline their kids but they are treated like pariahs if they try to. God forbid you raise your voice at your kid in public someone calls the police. You can't have it both ways people. Either support parents to discipline their kids or shut it when their kids are being little brats.

Piper Weiss states smugly, "When did kids become the equivalent of second-hand smoke? Blame a wave of childless adults with money to spare." NO, Piper, sweetie. Blame a wave of parents who do not discipline, who cannot differentiate between discipline and punishment, who equate "freedom" with THEIR rights and not with the rights of others. PROPERLY brought up children are welcome almost anywhere. Improperly brought up children should not have to be tolerated where other arrangements can be made. Even churches now have "crying rooms" for in-arms babies, where parents can still hear the sermon but their crying infants cannot disrupt the worship service. Children who run shrieking between tables, up and down aisles, in and out of doors, or AHYWHERE else where adults are working constitute a danger to themselves AND to others. A shrieking 2-year-old whose mother can barely hold her down for take-off and who is agitating her 3-year-old sister into similar behaviour SHOULD be ejected, calmly and respectfully, for the safety and peace of the other passengers. Kids whose parents allow them to disturb others for ANY extended period of time are not necessarily to blame -- but if parents will not restrain them, then parents AND children need to go.

You can't bring children on board like a carry-on...just buckle them into a seat...let them get up and run around when they get bored. Kids should never be on board an airplane. With all kinds of strangers. Strangers who you wouldn't let near your baby otherwise are perfectly alright on board an airliner. In an airplane cabin thousands of feet in the air. Because it's more convenient for you to fly them to drive. These kind of parents, who think that way, should not have kids. Babies and toddlers running amok could be grabbed, could be exposed to a woman having a seizure...an epileptic seizure..parents don't care. These parents against banning babies and toddlers from airplanes have no idea what's actually going on. Keep your baby out of harm's way. You don't need other parents or new laws to explain how this works. Do what's best for your kids. Not what is best for you.

"When did kids become the equivalent of second-hand smoke? Blame a wave of childless adults with money to spare."

No. Blame the parents who refuse to be parents instead of "buddies" to their kids. Blame the parents who've abdicated their parental responsibilities for teaching honesty and administering discipline and expecting schools to handle those duties. Blame parents who are afraid of the little monsters they've spawned and can't deal with shouts of "I hate you!" whenever they say "no". Not that they ever say "No," because the little ones can't deal with disappointment, you know.

The issue is that many if not most parents don't control or discipline their children anymore. They claim they don't want to stifle their creativity and free spirit which really means they couldn't be bothered teaching them manners or establishing boundaries. They think the rest of us should just deal with the screaming, the running, the throwing of toys and the general mayhem of their children that they don't have the balls to put a stop to. If they can't be little angels, leave em home!

I suspect that writer Piper Weiss has (WAY too over-indulged) kids of her own, or she wouldn't be blaming childless adults for this upsurge in "no kid zones." She is a classic case of denial at it's finest. Parents who take the time to raise children to display good manners and basic civility do NOT want their children exposed to kids who act like mindless little savages. And adults without children don't want to be exposed to them either.

I'm a parent. I remove my children from restaurants, etc. when they are loud, and thankfully, I haven't had to do it many times. If more parents would do the same, I don't think there would be so many of these anti-children policies. Some have ruined it for the rest. On the other hand, it's much harder in, say, a grocery store, when your cart is already full. Are you supposed to abandon it and just leave? What about flying? And what about parents of special needs children who can't simply be made to behave properly? So, there also needs to be some understanding on the part of childless adults. Parents need to do their part, but even well-behaved children of great parents cannot be fully and completely controlled every moment of every day.

Piper Weiss totally misses the point when she says that the child-free movement is due to ..."a wave of childless adults with money to spare." Most people who are in favor of more child-free options HAVE children. Put the onus where it belongs: Blame a wave of parents who won't discipline their kids and then subject the result of their poor parenting on an innocent public.

Im just afraid some dumb parents will start leaving kids home alone or in a hot car and more children will die. Thats coming from a childless woman who also hates screaming kids, but I didn't say I wanted them put in danger.....just sayin

Too, too many of parents today let their children rule. The kids are screaming, whining, horrible spoiled brats and the parents do nothing to stop their dreadful behavior. Too many scream, Special needs children should be allowed to do anything they want. I don't mind well behaved, polite children, but I don't want the brats. If I have to choose between kid-free and brats, kid-free wins everytime.

This is not about childless adults, it is about over pampered kids whose parents do not give a hang about the people around them. This is what happens when you throw the baby out with the bath water. Just because you want to end child abuse, encouraging parents to allow tantrums (Just walk away and ignore it is becoming common advice) is irresponsible and breeds generations of selfish adults who demand the world bend to meet their needs. My 8 (yes 8) children get compliments whenever we venture out for their good behavior. I want those around me to be able to enjoy their lives, and my children are educated to understand how their behaviors effect those around them, and believe it or not they can understand this from a very early age. Also, parents must be prepared to remove and discipline unruly children. (whatever that means for you, but make it consistent and firm) so that others do not have to put up with it.

Now is your chance to show how much you know about parenting. Go ahead and comment. I know you want to.

This is not all about the kids, it's about the parents that allow their kids to scream and/or be disorderly.