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    You Want to Ban My Child from Airline Travel?

    From FitPregnancy.com's Ask The Labor Nurse:

    I am pretty annoyed about this article on CNN about babies and children on airplanes. They cry, misbehave, kick seats, poop their pants and generally act like babies. Some people are upset enough by this, they' re suggesting babies and small children be banned from air travel. Why? Because they bother them.

    My response: Oh grow up, people. Who among us hasn't done something on a plane that hasn't bothered someone else? There are those with bad breath, the non-stop talkers, the armrest hoggers, stinkers, cussers, creeps, and more than a few drunks. There are those who do airplane therapy, dumping their entire life story on you when all you said was a polite, "howya doin?" There are those who are so afraid to cry they break into a sweat and hyperventilate. There was that one guy whose thighs overflowed onto my lap and that other guy who watched porn videos on his IPod throughout the whole flight. Once, a lady scolded me for my reading material - a fashion magazine I'd picked up in the airport - because it objectified women. Another lady asked if she could read the Bible to me. When I said, "no thank you," she called me a b---- . These are adults I'm talking about.

    Babies and little kids cry on airplanes. They get bored, hate being confined and don't let people know about it. They get hungry and have to go to the bathroom at inconvenient times. Sometimes, they kick seats. Big deal. Is this any reason for child discrimination? If it's your seat they're kicking, ask the parents to tell them to stop. If the crying gets on your nerves, put your headphones on. Be a grown up and add a little empathy. It's a moment, not forever. Deal with it.

    It's the parents I feel sorry for. People can be so mean about it. Parents of cranky kids are already tense, tired and trying. So why give them the stink eye? What are they supposed to do? There's not that much you can do to guarantee a child will be quiet and happy beyond the excellent suggestions made in the CNN article. If you've done all you can and your child is still noisy, you can only hope for the kindness, patience and maturity of strangers.

    Parents, when you're flying with little ones, ask for bulkhead seating, take advantage of pre-boarding, beg your flight attendants for help and pack a carry-on bag for every contingency you can think of. Tell kids who are old enough how you expect them to behave and hold them to it with bribes, gifts and prizes for good behavior. Toss in a big package of earplugs and Hershey's kisses to placate your fellow travelers. Make every effort you can to make the flight pleasant (or at least tolerable) and then hope for the best.

    And those of you who think air travel should be adult-only occasions? Your intolerance is childish. Maybe you shouldn't get on that plane either.

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    • AmandaG  •  Lubbock, Texas  •  1 month 14 days ago
      I have been on an airplane and kid behind be kept kicking my seat. I turned around 3 times and told the kid to stop. He didn't. I finally got his mother's attention (She was reading a magazine and had her headphones on) and asked her to make her kid quit kicking my seat. She just rolled her eyes at me and said,"Nothing I can do. Deal with it." and went right back to reading. Does that sound like someone who is "tense, tired, and trying"? No. It sounds like a bi*ch who had a brat she didn't want to be responsible for. I was stuck like that for an hour. I think it's brilliant to get rid of the kids, but it would be even better to get rid of the parents!
    • joshua  •  Sydney, Australia  •  1 month 20 days ago
      plain and simple...I love children but truly despise the fact that because I have chosen not to have kids (its a choice people), that I have to tolerate others'. I recently paid nearly 50k for my partner and I to fly SYD-LAX and heard a screaming child for hours. I hate when parents don't control their kids in shops, restaurants or even the doctors office. I'm glad that these places are banning children....now Malaysian Airlines is following suit. I hope that more do the same and I will gladly patronize these child free businesses...I don't believe that parents should be entitled to special treatment for having children, tax breaks, cheaper meals when out, or even cheaper airfares. If your child takes up a seat, pay what I pay. If you and your obnoxious child must sit next to me, you should both pay 25k each like I do. and if you can't find another mode of transport.....like your minivan!
    • nillor  •  Dayton, Ohio  •  2 months ago
      Yes trained it! Don't try changing the subject. My mother said after we were grown that there was nowhere that she couldn't take us as children, and she was proud of the compliments she received as to our behavior. We were wild wild boys but we were trained to be respectful and mom knew the little things to do to pacify us as well. She didn't shirk her duties as a mother and was the most loving mother we could have had. Parents just don't want to parent as ours did and nowadays want to pass off all responsibility to anyone else. You pay enough for your tickets to begin with without being abused by some spoiled little brat and yes I said brat. Quit making excuses for the children and their parents. It's ridiculous
    • jamie  •  1 month 24 days ago
      and i quote puppybone- 'Babies and little kids too young or too poorly parented to know how to behave in public don't belong in public.' !!!!!!!!!!! for all you unfit parents who think that your spoiled bundle of brat should be everyone else's problem....you are rude, inconsiderate, obnoxious and not fit to socialize let alone breed if thats how you view your problem child.
    • chris  •  Atlanta, Georgia  •  2 months ago
      Yeah screaming children can be annoying. Some of the blame is on parents. Some is on a society that now things spanking is cruel and unusual punishment. But there are adults that act just like children. And adults get kicked off of planes on a regular basis. Look at 9/11. That was not caused by babies.
      • BadSpock 2 months ago
        You actually brought 9/11 into this discussion? Really? I was actually agreeing with you up until that point.

        Yeah, if we could just convince people to leave their damned annoying hijackers at home, the world would be a safer place. :/
    • puppybone69  •  Doylestown, Pennsylvania  •  2 months ago
      Babies and little kids too young or too poorly parented to know how to behave in public don't belong in public. We are a civilized society that jails people unwilling or unable to follow the rules and regulations of civilized behavior, and that applies to you and your kids the same as it applies to everyone else. If you can't or won't accept that, then suffer the consequences as the rest of us segregate you and discriminate against you and your kids!
    • ST  •  Regina, Canada  •  2 months ago
      I was on a 7 hour flight a few months back, and one of the passengers was a wailing tot. The worst part is, the parents just ignored the kid. After 3 or 4 hours of NONSTOP wailing, I asked a flight attendant to do something. I was extremely annoyed, and my patience was at its end. I was told to remain patient. I also noticed another passenger (a mother with two tots who were quiet the whole time) ask same thing. She was also told to remain patient. I could not take it any longer. My head was pounding, and my chest was throbbing because I was so enraged that this couple could let their kid wail like that. Her screams sounded raspy and painful. So I went over there, and as politely as I could, asked them to calm her down. They were outraged at me, and told me to "mind my own business" and to "get some respect for hard working parents". They called me a b---- and inconsiderate of others. The flight attendants promptly sat me down, and asked me to remain seated unless I was ESCORTED else where on the plane.
      What is inconsiderate, is letting your child wail in public, and not even attempting to calm them down! Obviously, something was wrong and that little girl needed something. Sitting there and ignoring them will do nothing.
      She also screamed all the way through the customs line up. Go figure.
    • Pagoda  •  Colby, Kansas  •  2 months ago
      It's time for the airlines to have a "family section" on aircraft, The rear of the plane could be blocked off for families with children under 14. They would board first, be closer to the restrooms and be able to sit together. The passengers traveling without children wouldn't be "bothered" by the families. Families have to travel by air sometimes, that's a fact of life. Let's make it easier on them and those traveling without children by separating the two.
      • Bugswald 27 days ago
        Why is the word bothered in quotation marks?
    • Christina James  •  Tucson, Arizona  •  2 months ago
      My complaint is that some of us who use these planes are required to for our or our husbands jobs. in fact those who are in military families have no chioce in some cases to take children on the planes. these restrictions make are jobs as parents harder. yes i believe parents should help thier kids cope on planes better. but sometimes the screaming is from things such as ear pain since they do not know how to clear thier ears at a young age. these anti kid people should look into chartering private planes for travel if it is that much of an issue. for some of us life is not possible without flying.
      • A R 2 months ago
        Amen to that! Try flying overseas with a child. It is hard even if the child is a bit older. I did it by myself when the Navy transfered my husband to Italy from the states. It is no fun that is for sure. To make matters worse, our daughter had just started school and didn't like the fact that she was leaving her friends.
    • Debbie  •  Chico, California  •  2 months ago
      I think that there should be rewards for wonderful children if everyone is going to bash on bad kids. I had to travel from California to Florida at least 3 times a year to see the Dr. there. I was a single mom with a baby and a six year old. My 6 year old daughter would help me roll luggage, help with her brother, etc. Even these wonderful kids, (OK I'm a little biased) had a bad flight especially when they were small and couldn't get their ears to clear. We had wonderful airline attendants who helped and even the bad experiences were over in a quick period of time with the help of lovely attendants and nice folks sitting around us. That daughter is now 19 and the baby is now 13. It is sad to think that things have changed that much in 15 years. It was a good experience for the kids to see that there were kind people at alot of different areas they came into contact with. They also paid the kindness forward. The children would take the hints that attendants or other passengers had taught them and pass them on to travelers smaller than themselves when we were traveling. They became the kind teachers to these new young travelers and so the circle of life continues. It makes me sad to see so much self importance these days. What happened to letting others go first, the golden rule, etc. Well, thanks for reading the ramble.
    • lola  •  Wallingford, Connecticut  •  2 months ago
      to the lady that says to all of us "grow up": I'm a mother too & I was able to travel, go to a movie with my child because I TRAINED it that it's not mannered to scream/misbehave in public; why don't you try flying 9 hrs with a screamer & tell me about it? and no idiot, ear plugs are no match to a banshee screamer (I know it because I had the misfortunate experience); there were a couple of other parents with children of the same age that didn't scream; WHAT A RELIEF - it's not discrimination at all, after all I paid for my ticket plenty of money & I don't see why should I be subjected to your child's tantrums/screams; what I actually think if that people disturbed by your unruly brat should take your name & sue you for CRUEL & UNUSUAL punishment; keep the brats off of everywhere until the idiotic parents realize that it's not ok for others to pay for their lack in educating their kids
      • Deana 2 months ago
        Wow- you 'TRAINED it'? By it- do you mean your child? It is wonderful to hear such sound parenting advice from such an obviously loving mother. "Unruly brat"? Wow!
      • nillor 2 months ago
        Yes trained it! Don't try changing the subject. My mother said after we were grown that there was nowhere that she couldn't take us as children, and she was proud of the compliments she received as to our behavior. We were wild wild boys but we were trained to be respectful and mom knew the little things to do to pacify us as well. She didn't shirk her duties as a mother and was the most loving mother we could have had. Parents just don't want to parent as ours did and nowadays want to pass off all responsibility to anyone else. You pay enough for your tickets to begin with without being abused by some spoiled little brat and yes I said brat. Quit making excuses for the children and their parents. It's ridiculous.
      • Alyssa 2 months ago
        Not sure if a mother who calls their child "it" is such a great mother. Congratulations you trained it. I have taught my child, but you will never hear me refer to my child as an "it". They aren't robots or pests. Be a mom and show some love. Maybe you do, but your sure as h*ell don't sound like a loving mother.
    • joann g  •  New York, New York  •  2 months ago
      Its parents that are to blame.Control your kids,I always did and I could take them anywhere and everywhere at any age!
      • BadSpock 2 months ago
        AMEN! Parents need to actually be parents and use discipline rather than caving to the child's every whim.
      • lilbit 2 months ago
        wow. Yeah...."always, anywhere, everywhere." No exaggerations there. I am sure at 8 weeks your kid/s never cried
      • L 2 months ago
        At 8 weeks an infant shouldnt be anywgere near a plane
    • TBrown  •  2 months ago
      Who ever wrote this article SCARES me. With an attitude like that I'm sure their offspring will be the perfect example of what a walking, talking, (screaming?) attitude of entitlement looks like. God help us!
    • Krys  •  2 months ago
      I can't believe people who think that kids shouldn't travel on planes. I have two kids and have never traveled on planes with them. When my oldest was still a baby my husband and I travel by car to Harrison Idaho to visit family. She got upset a couple of times cuz she was hungry but we haven't travel that far with our son yet. I hope we never have to cuz in June we will be adding to our family.
    • S  •  Barra De Navidad, Mexico  •  2 months ago
      Every child may have a right to travel but every passenger has the right to a peaceful pleasant flight . Travel is big money why should anyone have to tolerate someone unruly spoiled brats ? Please if they can kick adults of for being unruly kick the kids off to.
    • Single  •  2 months ago
      "If it's your seat they're kicking, ask the parents to tell them to stop."

      That's about the most childish statement I've ever heard. I expect a parent to stop a child kicking my seat and giving me back pain WITHOUT me asking. If you want to bring your kid on the plane, expect to be a hard-nose parent and make them not physically assault other passengers. I get it that they will be noisy but the seat kicking is inexcusable.
    • Sammi  •  Hickory Hills, Illinois  •  2 months ago
      I have been on more than one long distance plane ride to hell with a screaming baby/kid most of the way. If you cannot keep those around you from getting a migraine headache with your antics, don't fly, no matter how old you are. Or, second alternative, get a sedative, put the kid "out". Yes, out. I do that with pets that are not going to be quiet. Or they don't fly either.......
    • Lynda and John  •  Dallas, Texas  •  2 months ago
      You don't always know the entire story with children..My 3 year old grandson has cancer and flys regularly between Dallas to New York City for treatments..During the last year he has has 4 major surgeries and 8 rounds of high dose chemo..For the most part, he sleeps throught the trip, but sometimes he has been very uncomfortable and fussy.. When he is going thru chemo and completely bald, people are a little more tolerant but when his hair is back, my daughter has to experience the "looks". She is a single mom and usually travels alone with him. Next time you see a single mom traveling alone, please be kind - It might be her.
    • bibi  •  Tampa, Florida  •  2 months ago
      I'm a mother of three, ages 13, 4 & 2 and while I do not appreciate the selfish comments of some people in regards to children traveling, I do understand that being confined in a plane with a crying baby or a toddler having a tantrum or kicking your seat for a couple of hours isn't fun at all; especially if you don't have small children because then you're a little less sensitive to the situation. We all need to work things out, parents including myself, need to do their best to keep their kids happy, and perhaps occupied doing something fun while on a plane for everybody's sake; however, sometimes this can be difficult... Not all the time the issue is "lousy parenting" kids get scared, anxious, just like adults... and if this is the reason for the tantrum, the best "parenting skills" won't help. People need to be a bit more understanding. If my kid(s) is driving you crazy, believe me he/she is driving me crazy too, then add people around you giving you dirty looks.... ufff Its a loose-losse situation for everyone. Perhaps you can put your headphones on, and/or if there's space available, ask to be moved. Needless to say I do not agree with banning children from air-travel, but I think it would be wonderful, if the airlines came up with a diff. aproach.... Just like there are adults only hotels, (like Sandals) maybe they should come up with "family friendly fligts" where no one is banned from boarding, so we do not inconvenience anyone, but if you have no children, board at your own risk or wait for the next flight.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Reno, Nevada  •  2 months ago
      I was 19 before I boarded a plane. My mother never flew,she is 90 now. There is a life possible without flying. I don't think that parents with children under 2 absolutely should fly.

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