Discover Yahoo! With Your Friends

Explore news, videos, and much more based on what your friends are reading and watching. Publish your own activity and retain full control.

To get started, first

YOUR FRIENDS' ACTIVITY

    Which Graduate Degrees Are Still Worth Getting?

    Which graduate degrees are really worth the money?Which graduate degrees are really worth the money?Most people assume that a medical degree is still worth the student loan debt that goes along with it. Ditto a law degree or an MBA, if you're thinking about going to grad school. But a Doctorate in Pharmacy or a Masters in Public Health? What makes those advanced degrees so desirable?

    According to Kiplinger Magazine, they're among the five degrees that the personal finance magazine deems "still worth the debt." With an aging population, the demand for doctors will always be high, the article points out, and lawyers who manage to get hired by private firms can still make plenty of money. A doctorate is needed in order to make a career in pharmacy really pay off (they spend less time mixing medications and more time consulting with patients, nowadays), and when it comes to the business world, "Many firms won't even look at a candidate who lacks an MBA," the article says.

    But while many people still equate public health with social work and hospital settings, the truth is that a Masters in Public Health degree is more versatile than ever before.

    "Public health is much larger than health care," says Lisa Toby, the Assistant Dean of Career Services at the Boston University School of Public Health. "Health care is one piece of public health. But there are many other pieces. It's about effecting policy change around laws now--laws around environmental issues, laws around what organizations have to do to protect their employees, laws around who gets access to what."

    With an aging population, people in the field of public health are able to "solve some of the issues we have around health and health care," Toby told Yahoo! Shine.

    "Traditional medical care is more about treatment," she added. "Public health is more about prevention."

    "Public health professionals will be increasingly sought after as the health care industry expands, the federal government pursues disaster-preparedness efforts, and communities seek to improve preventive care," the Kiplinger article points out. "Most public health management positions require a master's degree."

    Public health concentrations include epidemiology, bio-statistics, community health sciences, and environmental health, among other things, and within each concentration there are multiple career opportunities.

    RIght now, generally speaking, a lot of employers are looking for soft skills like team-building and leadership. But they're also seeking employees with analytical, technical, statistical and other "hard skills," Toby points out. "It's a great career for anyone, but for women who are looking for leadership roles that are also mission-driven, it's a really good fit," she says, adding that about 80 percent of Boston University's public health students are women. "There is so much opportunity [for women] to really assume leadership positions within public health."

    Kiplinger took a look at how much those popular advanced degrees really cost-and how big a payoff each one can bring (and they really seem to be making a case for taking public colleges and universities more seriously). Here's how they compare:

    MBA:

    • Average annual tuition and fees: $18,345 (public, in-state), $49,921, (private)
    • Average debt: $34,691
    • Average income: $84,650

    Law Degree:
    • Average annual tuition and fees: $18,461 (public, in-state), $35,622 (private)
    • Average debt: $82,601
    • Average income: $129,020

    Doctor of Pharmacy:
    • Average annual tuition and fees: $14,476 (public, in-state), $29,618, (private)
    • Average debt: $66,319
    • Average income: $106,630

    Master of Public Health:

    • Average annual tuition and fees: $18,000 (public, in-state), $36,387 (private)
    • Average debt: $34,824
    • Average income: $90,970

    Medical Degree:

    • Average annual tuition and fees: $22,959 (public, in-state), $41,289 (private)
    • Average debt: $126,152
    • Average income: $183,990




    Also on Shine:

     

    15 comments

    • Trish C  •  6 months ago
      okay, the average income figure for lawyers is a bit skewed. That's the average income for established, practicing lawyers -- NOT the average income for recent law graduates or entry-level lawyers. Legal jobs are few and far between right now!
      • Final Word 6 months ago
        First-year salaries at prestigious firms in large cities (NYC, WDC, LA, SF) are pushing $200K. I am aware of the poor market for new recruits, but the average income figure presumably includes only those people working as lawyers. The factors keeping the average salary as low as stated are the young lawyers seeking government jobs, or public service positions. It may also include reporting lawyers who have a solo practice, which takes two-five years to be profitable. It's still a lucrative career, worth the initial investment.
      • UMlawstudent 6 months ago
        It's still a lucrative career, worth the initial investment.

        HA! yeah. right. i agree with Trish C that legal jobs are extremely rare right now. i warn everyone thinking of applying to law school right to proceed with caution because the legal market is in the dumps ..
      • Trish C 6 months ago
        Final Word -- I'd love to know where you're getting your information. I'm currently in the market in NYC, and also went to law school here. I have yet to hear of ANYONE with a starting salary over $120,000 (which is an AMAZING number) -- and also, this person was TOP OF THE CLASS at a top law school. Your "prestigious" law firms hire 1 to 2 new candidates a year, if that, and are laying off even more as the market isn't recovering. I suggest you take a look at how many entry level attorneys are receiving that top pay, and compare that number with HOW MANY ENTRY LEVEL LAW STUDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR A JOB. That will probably give you a better perspective on how miserable the market is.

        Additionally, compare the figures of the average amount of loans taken out to pay for law school with the average starting salary of an entry level attorney. That's another major consideration for potential law school students.

        Finally, I suggest you take a look at a recent article on the ABA's website. Its about law schools fudging the statistics for recent graduates. Law schools up until now have been including part-time and non-legal employment numbers in their "graduating class employment rates". Now, because many students feel duped enough by their law schools and lawsuits have been started, the ABA has stepped in and is forcing law schools to disclose the breakdowns of those "graduating class employment" numbers or they face losing their ABA accreditation.

        Law school is not the same "investment" that it was 15 years ago. It's a MAJOR risk.
    • GingerGina  •  6 months ago
      I find it frusterating that most social work positions require a masters degree but the jobs seem to pay pennies an hour!
      • Angie959 6 months ago
        Amen. Best friend has two B.A.'s in sociology & a master to go with it. & I still make more working in the private sector. It's just sad.
      • LightFreedHer 6 months ago
        Amen GingerGina. Sometimes I think we SW shoot ourselves in the feet because we don't advocate for ourselves enough.
    • JJ  •  6 months ago
      I have an MBA and while it's helped me advance in my career, it's definitely no guarantee of job security. There is also a great deal of elitism out there as far as where one obtained their MBA. I went to a well-respected business school for working adults since I didn't get my degree until I was in my 30's. Not all, but some of the larger companies will question why one didn't get their MBA at a "top tier" university. I work in HR myself and wouldn't even think to ask this and personally have more respect for people who earn a degree while working, but there are those who apparently have an elitist attitude. Also keep in mind that once you end up specializing in one area of business, it's difficult to move into another area of business... I would probably advise AGAINST an MBA and go with a master's degree in nursing, public health, or one of the service fields instead.
    • Vicki  •  6 months ago
      I would LOVE to know where the jobs currently are for someone with a Masters degree in Public Health! I recently graduated (in August) with my MPH and am having a difficult time finding employment.
      • Megan 6 months ago
        I graduated in '08 with a MPH in Epi and still can't find a job with my degree. I would love to know where these jobs are!!
    • Michelle  •  6 months ago
      YAY! So glad I'm in a Master's program for Health Administration right now.
    • Brittany  •  6 months ago
      Considering my MA in Communications landed me a great job at a major movie studio, I would say it was worth the debt. =) But, to each his own
    • A Yahoo! User  •  6 months ago
      I agree with the previous entries about law and science. Law degrees pay a lot IF you get hired, BUT it is extremely difficult to find a full time position in the field. Science is growing (more than other fields), especially bio-medical science. I am in a program now and I am getting paid to attend, no debt for me. The only thing I have to pay are student fees, which I can afford to pay with my stipend. PA degrees are in demand as well, so I like that comment too.
    • Ashley  •  6 months ago
      I honestly would have thought that a field with no grad school debt would have been up there. If you go to grad school for a Ph.D. in a hard science field, you don't pay, you get paid. It's basically a job. I graduated with zero debt from either grad or undergrad. This is just a personal preference, but for me, no education is worth debt. If I couldn't get a scholarship or a fellowship to cover all costs, I just wouldn't do it.
    • Mariela None  •  6 months ago
      wow lol I said B---S for bachelor of science and it bleeped it out. Ummm seriously? lol.. ridiculous. Again, when is shine going to change back to the old format? This one truly sucks...
    • annie  •  6 months ago
      I swung back around to see if I talked anyone into a masters of nursing in community health (it's EXPLODING! We need help!!) A PA Physicians Assistant, likewise: excellent investment: surefire placement. Miss None, I think it's admirable that you want to teach Spanish. You share that trait with My Sam the Man From the Southwest! You know that my oldest son Sam is now at Credit Suisse in Buenos Aries. He has that MBA and that MA in Latino Studies as well, and it together was/is a deadly combo! But Dave is right: if there is a choice: it goes to the Dude with the MBA. My brother has one from Wharton, and it opened a LOT of doors. You need to get that little one in school and start your double masters: Latino Studies and Business. The world awaits!! (That MPH Masters in Public Health) is one I have my eye on...looks like I'll have a few years to play with while husband takes active duty...ha ha I want to be the brunt of the WSO!!! The 1%!!

      :) annie
    • Angie959  •  6 months ago
      To me MBA's are a dime a dozen anymore. The job candidate couldn't find a job so they went back to school. During my interview(s) with my current company I was asked why I'd never gone back to school for a masters. My answer: My "Master's Degree" was earned as an Executive Assistant for a V.P. (& co founder) of an award winning Web Design company. I was an entry level employee working on senior management projects.
      That was an education!

      My recommendation, get two B.A.'s in different disciplines: Engineering & Computer Science. Marketing & Visual Design (what I did). Psychology & Business.
      Broadcast Journalism & Atmospheric Science (what I'm hoping my stepdaughter will do).
      Mathematics & Architecture. That shows drive & ambition, passion & intelligence.
      Either degree can get you in the door but having the other degree will make you shine!
    • annie  •  6 months ago
      MSN. In community health nursing. It's exploding.
    • Brown  •  6 months ago
      The way this world is going , it doesn't make a difference what degree you have, you won't get the job unless your credit score in above a 750.. you will be so far in debt before you earn an MBA or Doctrine Degree.. smh!
    • Mariela None  •  6 months ago
      I took the GMAT after graduating with my #$%$ in business admin and was accepted into the MBA program of my choice at Auburn, however, I decided not to go, because I truly felt an MBA would do me absolutely no good in the real world. I would love to earn my MA in Spanish or MS in education so that I could teach Spanish to children. I have had trouble finding a program that would work with my SAHM schedule. I'd much rather teach a language than climb the corporate ladder. Sometimes I wonder why I ever bothered to major in business admin, it's really not my fav subject, although I did quite well in school. At this point, an MBA is a degree that too many folks have.....
    • Doctor Dave  •  6 months ago
      I worked hard to get my MBA many years ago. It is good to see that it is still one of the more valuable degree's. I tell my employee's that an MBA alone will not guarantee them a job but all things being equal, a candidate with an MBA will always come out ahead of a candidate that doesn't have one. One of the best investments I ever made in terms of time, effort and money.