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    Got Pine Mouth? The Curious Problem with Pine Nuts

    Pine nuts. Almost everyone loves them, and it's hard not to add just a little extra when you're sprinkling them on salads, adding them to pesto sauce, topping off main meals with them, turning them into desserts, or what have you.

    But ever since last winter, an increasing number of people have fallen prey to a curious problem with them: pine mouth.

    That's when eating pine nuts leaves you with a metallic taste in your mouth that can last for weeks afterward, and make eating or drinking anything an unpleasant experience.

    The problems seemed to begin with Chinese pine nuts imported into the U.S. about a year ago. There is no heavy-metal contamination or pesticide or fungus involved, and it doesn't seem related to allergies. Even more confusing, not everyone is affected. A British botanist who's started a blog dedicated to pine mouth suspects oxidation as a possibility, or that a new species of pine nut is being sold.

    Changes in taste (called dysgeusia) often occur when people are, and can be symptoms of very serious health issues like nerve damage or brain tumors, can occur during pregnancy or be a side effect of treatments like chemotherapy, or can go completely unexplained. Anyone who's every taken the antibiotic metronidazole knows how much fun it can be to take a dose before a lavish dinner. (Zero.) Steelworkers and people who work with brass sometimes complain of metallic tastes, as do some people who've undergone recent dental work. In many cases, there's nothing to do but wait and hope the change in taste goes away.

    These pine-nut incidents, however, are clearly related to the food, and not simply caused by individual underlying health issues.

    Has anyone had pine mouth? Do you remember the circumstances of your incident? What kind of pine nuts did you buy, where did you buy them? How did you use them? How long did your pine mouth last? Was it enough to make you swear off pine nuts forever?

    by Michael Y. Park

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    67 comments

    • Jan  •  Portsmouth, United Kingdom  •  1 month 15 days ago
      I have bitter taste after eating pine nuts .Glad I found this site at least it's good to know the cause but really annoyingJan
    • Jude  •  10 months ago
      I have been suffering from pine mouth for over a week now. I was eating a small handful for a couple of days. I have eaten them before (but just a sprinkle on a salad or pesto). This is horrible. I have to chew gum constantly to keep another taste in my mouth.
      I was constantly online looking up diseases and was sure I had H Pylori!!!! Hope it goes away soon, PLEASE!!
    • Belinda  •  11 months ago
      I live in Australia and bought a brand called Olympic "We are nuts". It does not say where the nuts are from, just that they are imported. they are a light colour and quite rounded. I thought i was getting tonsillitis or something but turns out it is pine mouth!! lasts for about 10 minutes after i eat anything, including water. It is day 3 now, I have heard day 2 is the worst. I hope it goes away soon, I just want to enjoy my food again!!
    • DAVID  •  1 year 2 months ago
      I've had pine mouth after eating pine nuts on Sunday and Monday, I will update when I find out where the nuts were from and how long it lasts
    • Madeline  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Hi, I googled "weird taste in my mouth after eating" because that has been happening to me for the past few days....starting to worry....I saw the blog about pine mouth and felt relieved because I know that is my problem. I ate a sauce made with many pine nuts before this started happening!!!!!!
    • Paula  •  1 year 3 months ago
      2/7/11 Two more victims of Pine Mouth after ingesting 1/2 cup in a recipe. Five days later and the symptoms continue to be profound. These Pine Nuts were packaged by Flanigan Farms of Culver City, CA, and were purchased at our local VONS in Encinitas, CA. Expiration date is 09/27/11. What is not yet clear is "WHERE" the pine nuts were grown? We are awaiting word from Flanigan Farms. Had the packaging stated "grown in China" I would not have purchased them as I have read that they are typically less flavorful and smaller than the Mediterranean varieties. I had not heard of the Pine Mouth link to Chinese pine nuts. We will be sending the remaining pine nuts to the FDA and alerting all our family and friends to beware of this potential problem. It is very unpleasant to say the least.
    • Emma  •  1 year 4 months ago
      I have just been trawling through the net looking for causes behind the horrible metallic taste in my mouth. Thought it might indicate something serious. It started this morning. I then hit on the pine nut phenomenon and strangely I was at a friends for dinner three nights ago and she cooked pasta with pine nuts. The taste affects everything I eat, I am glad to know it will pass though and is not serious. I think I will avoid pine nuts in the future though.
    • Cinner64  •  1 year 4 months ago
      Following my third day of a very strong after taste after everything I eat or drink I googled "strong after taste for a few days" and came across your site. I had salad with pine nuts sprinkled on it for lunch on Tuesday and again Tuesday night for my evening meal and first noticed the after taste when I thought the milk in my tea the next day had gone off, then realised I was also getting that taste with my cereal, a piece of fruit, and even a glass of water... and everything else I have eaten or drank since then. I am diabetic and am aware sometimes a metallic after taste can be a warning of uncontrolled sugar levels or imbalance in medication, but my sugar levels are fine and I have recently been to the GP and all was good. Reading the comments on your site as well as on others now that I have been made aware of "pine mouth" I am fairly certain this must be it. The pine nuts I consumed were bought at a Sainsbury's in south east England in December, are still in date until August 2011, and the label shows what I assume is a batch number: L0018025 10:26 produce of China. The nuts appear to be a uniform colour, they do not have a darker tip like some sites mention are common with pine mouth sufferers... but the symptoms are so similar it is hard to believe it could be anything else. Thanks for posting what you know -- it was really bothering me that I could not figure out what was causing this. I have enjoyed pine nuts for years without experiencing this before, but I do not think I will be risking a recurrence of this terribly unpleasant taste again.
    • Ian  •  1 year 5 months ago
      Drink BITTER LEMON TONIC - its really helped me
    • Bas  •  1 year 6 months ago
      I also have the joy to experience it. I bought my pine nuts from fruitworld. Doesn't mention on the packet that they are from China but the nuts are smaller than the ones I usually eat (and they were on special). I only ate a couple of nuts ...... Can only hope it will disappear soon!
    • Richelle p  •  1 year 9 months ago
      My boyfriend and I started having this taste in our mouth a couple of months ago and we thought perhaps it was the candles in the rooms. Then thought perhaps the laundry detergent. We changed that. So last night I looked on line and found the article about pine nuts. We started making our own trail/snack mix a couple of months ago and we put pine nuts in it. I hadn't had any in a few weeks but then took a small container to work this past week and snacked on it all week. The last time it happened I think it went away after about a week. We bought ours from PriceSmart Foods (Save-On-Foods) and Canadian Superstore.
    • SK  •  1 year 6 months ago
      I have been eating pine nuts in various dishes for years, and this has not happened to me until now. I ate pine nuts from Trader Joe's last Friday evening. By Sunday, I had the worst taste in my mouth, especially after eating or drinking anything, except water. The taste is a mixture of bile and metal. Horrible. Disgusting. The taste is worse when eating anything starchy, like bread or sweets. I think that these "pine nuts" from Trader Joe's are mixed with inedible pine nuts. This is likely, as they are imported from China. Time for the USFDA to step in and take some serious steps.
    • Sarah  •  1 year 9 months ago
      uhhhgggg!!!!!!!!! I've had the metallic taste for 2 days now. Googled it, found out about pine nuts. Ate pine nuts on a salad on Saturday and popped a handful of them on Sunday. My sis ate them Fri. and Sat. on a salad and has the same taste. They were from China. Sonofableep!
    • SeanF  •  1 year 6 months ago
      I also discovered this via Googling for bitter / metallic taste after eating. About 3 days ago I started noticing "pine mouth" after eating. My girlfriend recently bought and had been cooking with pine nuts from Trader Joe’s (Cobble Hill, Brooklyn, NY). The bag’s contents are labeled as originating from Korea or Russia. I’ve eaten pine nuts before and not noticed this problem.
      The nuts themselves don’t taste spoiled and the aftertaste is noticeable after eating other foods (though mostly foods that are lightly fried in olive oil).
    • Bev  •  1 year 7 months ago
      I am so glad to find this website ... not because of the suffering people are going through but I have had exactly the same as Mary Kate (posted above). Started the day after I made homemade pesto with ricotta cheese & lasted all that next day ... I was getting very concerned. Then, my husband that evening said he has a metallic taste. Well, it is going on day 3 & it is subsiding. We live in British Columbia, bought the nuts in bulk foods at Superstore. I have done this in the past tons but now I know, to either stay away from pine nuts entirely OR not buy nuts from China. If my husband didn't have it too I was headed to the doctor with great concern as we are heading to the US in a week for several months & I was worried about a medication reaction or worse, a neurological problem.
    • KAREN W  •  1 year 5 months ago
      I bought my pine nuts from Tesco. i have just looked at the packet and it clearly states that they are from China. Surely the supermarkets must be aware by now of the risk of importing from China. I am really cross and am going to take them back to the store and ask for an investigation as to why chinese pine nuts are on their shelves. its really horrible.
    • TrishM  •  1 year 9 months ago
      I think I have pine mouth too! Sunday I made home made pesto using pine nuts from BJ's Wholesale, the Berkley & Jensen Brand. Two days later during dinner i asked my son if he felt what we were eating tasted funny. He said no. The next morning during breakfast I experienced the same metallic taste, then at lunch and dinner the same thing. I brought it up during dinner and my son mentioned "pine mouth", and that one of hie friends in med school had mentioned it to him. No place on the package of pine nuts does it mention the country of origin. I find that troubling.
    • heather  •  1 year 6 months ago
      My husband and I have our first case of pine mouth now, we ate them 2 days in a row not noticing anything till after day 2, they were the our compliments brand. It is such a strange and very annoying thing,Eating is very unpleasant at times and other times it's ok. We are only on day 2 of this so I expect that we will have it for awhile longer, anyway that's my story, it's a weird thing.
    • mark  •  1 year 7 months ago
      wow...I stumbled upon this while trying to understand why I suddenly had a horrible taste in my mouth. I had no idea the pine nuts I ate 2 days ago could be the cause.
    • Nourdine  •  1 year 5 months ago
      i will neva eva eat them again

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