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    I don't mean to single anyone out, but in over 20 years of restaurant experience when a group of women get together they are in my opinion the worst to wait on. They all have their own special wants and needs, like extra lemons with their water, requesting a particular bottled water that I did not mention when I told them what bottled waters we do have, dressings on side -- and when they get their salads they just dump their dressing all over the salad anyway, special requests on their main courses, and these are just a few
    examples. Then to top it all off they want to sit there and break their check down to what everyone had when I already made it clear to them at the beginning that I could give them seperate checks. Then, after all the running around and extra attention, they leave you next to nothing for a tip. I know I'm probably going to take a lot of flack for this post, but a group of guys in the same situation still have requests, but not as many, and at the end of the meal they take the check and just split it by how many guys are at the table. A lot easier to wait on. period!!!

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    206 comments

    • me  •  2 years 6 months ago
      I never comment on these sites but I couldn't agree with you more. I am a woman and a server and just reading some of these responses proves this man's point alone. But my all time favorite when it comes to women customers is their lack of patience. I love it when there are a bunch of requests (which doesn't bother me) one at a time so you have to make many trips back to their table and then they wonder why there food is taking so long. I don't know if they ever consider the fact that the waitress or waiter has to put that order in and bring it to you (so give them a few minutes to do that). Or better yet they sit there for about 20 minutes trying to decide what they want and expect to the food in 15 minutes if you are in a hurry maybe you should ask the waiter what is the fastest food cooked AND order that or order first and catch up while your order is being cooked. Women just seem to be needier and cheaper than men. Of course that is not all women.
    • DEDLINES.COM  •  2 years 6 months ago
      I served food for (10) months and only quit because of new management. The worst people to serve are people who currently work in the restaurant industry and they tend to know loop holes or how to get you fired.

      You are weird people who think you are master and food servers are your slave. You do not own them. You are merely renting them out for gratuity, nothing more, nothing less..

      If you occupy a servers time, seat, or booth for longer then (1) hour you owe them at least (8) dollars per person, per hour, in tips...
    • Freddy d  •  2 years 6 months ago
      for the tip........depending on size of check.....3 or 4 times amount of tax
    • Mauna  •  2 years 6 months ago
      As a female, I will agree that women are a pain in the a..to serve..I know this from off and on customer service in public places myself, and knowing just how much of a BITCH they can be. However, the male "KING LIKE attitudes" are also a big PAIN IN THE RUMP in serving, in the end, both sexes cut both ways. But as far as 'service' I do agree, women are more particular in keeping 'happy' and satisfied, while the males are just IMO, overall unappreciative, and are NEVER Satisfied in a multitude of areas in life when it comes to 'SERVICE' everything and anything is NEVER EVER GOOD ENOUGH all that one does HE WILL FIND SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.
    • Jill R.  •  2 years 6 months ago
      It's been my observation that women tend to tip according to the service: good service, good tip - bad service, bad tip. And I've observed that men tend to tip the same regardless of the service, but it tends to be below par unless they are trying to impress someone or make time with the server.
    • ShiningLight  •  2 years 6 months ago
      Yes, women are more picky. My mom had a friend who would just tell the waiter, don't even bring the fries if they aren't steaming hot. I would be afraid they would be steaming hot and poisoned.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  2 years 6 months ago
      I couldn't agree with you more! As someone that is a hostess and a server(occasionally), women are unbelievably irritating in restaurants! And yes I'm a woman. Everyone hates waiting on groups of women because not only are they picky and cheap, they also sit FOREVER! There have been times that I seen two or more women sit for literally 4 hours. And there's nothing we can do about it. On a busy night not only are they taking up a table someone else could be using, they're also digging into that servers tips for the night. Most restaurants limit the amount of tables a server can have at a time. Therefore although you've already paid, you still count as a table.

      And I would really love to slap who ever came up with the phrase "the customer is always right." Because they're not. People are often unreasonable and ignorant of how things work in restaurants. To clarify, I'm not saying people should know how things go in a restaurant, but most of the time people are yelling at me for just doing my job and following the rules. I don't come to your job and yell at you so don't do it at mine. If anything it should be "The customer is always right within reason." The people that are yelling at this guy should just consider themselves lucky that they've clearly never had to work in a restaurant.

      Sorry if this posts twice, I posted this hours ago & it still isn't up. . . .
    • Geaven  •  2 years 6 months ago
      it reinforces the point WOMEN ARE CHEAP; MEN COMPLAIN
    • Hermitage Weddings  •  2 years 6 months ago
      So True! Used to hate waiting on women! We'd lots of times bribed new servers to do that.
    • Faith  •  2 years 6 months ago
      I must say that I do not like splitting the check evenly because I always end up pay more than I wanted to. As far as the tip goes that varies with the waiter. Just because you waited on me does not mean you automatically get 20%. I sometimes tip 50 or more percent when the service is excellent. When the service is average- you get 10%-15% and if the service is bad- you may not even get one. But I will agree that women are more pickier than men when it comes to menu items because they are watching their weight or counting points or something....
    • Wynni  •  2 years 6 months ago
      Ok, I get that sometimes women can be picky about their meals and may ask a lot of questions. But as long as they're not being rude to you, then its alright. I'm vegan and I ask A LOT of questions about the restaurant and the menu if I've never been there before, and if there can be none of this, very little of this or a lot of that. Oh, lemon with water takes away from the tap aftertaste, because its cheaper than having bottled water. Some of us are eating out every so often as a luxury and, while we can afford it, need to divvy up the bill. I hate it when people say its rude or unbecoming when they see parties do that. If you really feel that way, then you pay for the meal!
    • EveryWayWoman.com  •  2 years 6 months ago
      Also waiters take your order they don't cook your food. Mistakes do happen in restaurants but for some reason human beings tend to forget that. Mistakes happen it is not the end of the world.
    • Kitten  •  2 years 6 months ago
      I have been a serving wench for way longer than I care to think, and a diner for even longer. And a female for my whole life. I would have to agree that women are generally way more time-intensive to deal with. Some of the requests my friends make on our girls nights out make me wince, spend the rest of our restaurant time apologizing to the server, reminding the girls that we are not nearly as cute or funny as we think we are, and wondering what the hell how much of a nightmare we're gonna be in 20 (okay, maybe 8) years on the bus tour circuit
    • Carolyn  •  2 years 6 months ago
      This is hilarious, BUT TRUE. My friends I always request seperate checks though, and since my phone has the tip calculator, I always calculate the tip out to the T...lol..I'll try harder to be less of a 'B' and tip a bit better depending on my request ;-)
    • Tara  •  2 years 6 months ago
      I have to agree with this post after also having worked in the field for well over 13 years. I believe the time when people believed "the customer is always right" are long gone. The customer is not always right and sometimes they are horribly wrong!! I always tip very well but then I have been on the other side. A few others have commented on some of the worst in my experience, those that eat all of their food and then complain and asked to be comped, ridiculous! Servers do not mind doing "their job", it's just that ignorance is a huge problem and there is no shortage of that. Nice post Jim!
    • lovey  •  2 years 6 months ago
      Hey Jim...you are there to wait on customers. If they have special wants, you are there to make that happen. Quit your whining.
    • rachel  •  2 years 6 months ago
      The worst words in the American language "Customer is always right". This is not true now nor has it ever been. If you need to make several changes to an entree it is not what you should order. I have never waited tables but I am always shocked at how people treat servers and act at restaurants.
    • Doll  •  2 years 6 months ago
      When I was a waitress, I actually found both sexes could be equally difficult. I actually had overheard one man telling his companions that he never tipped because he felt like waiters are doing the job they are paid to do. Now, I can't speak for other states, but the "waiter/waitress" minimum for my state was $2.13/ hour-because you made up the difference with tips! I wanted so very badly to ask him if he would work for $2.13/hour! Waiting tables is hard work and I will never forget the 60 hours/week I used to put in doing so. I've not waited tables for at least 10 years now, but I always try to make it easy for waiters when I go out because I've been there.
    • jessica  •  2 years 6 months ago
      i think that sometimes it just feels good to vent, to do your job well and act professionally but to acknowledge outside of work that sometimes certain things are a bummer... i always feel better after just telling someone about something that is often but not always true, and it makes me do my job better too because once i have said it it is off my chest. every job has its downside, customer service is tough work :)
    • Katie  •  2 years 6 months ago
      Certainly from the large number of restaurant-goers who have NEVER worked in table service, this is very true. However, I have found that anyone (women AND men) who has waited tables themselves tends to tip more than the average. Of one particular group of women that I go out with often, one always makes the ridiculous sort of special requests, and tips badly... she is the only one of us who has never waited tables.

      It's true that there is nothing wrong with special requests, as long as they are properly rewarded... these days, with most restaurants using computer systems for orders, waiters jump through hoops to meet many of these requests. And, as always, it's best to tell the server ahead of time how the checks will be split. I myself have gotten a few tongue-lashings for calling my manager to adjust (through the computer system) the number of checks for a particular table.

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